Zach Bogosian

[ihadtochangethename]

Welp, one of these threads worked for getting Wheeler back from the grave. I can only speculate that he trolls HF Boards, and so im hoping to dear god that Bogo trolls here too, so here you go Bogs, your very own thread. Here you will know how we really feel and hopefully it will guilt you into wanting to be better.

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So yea, Bogo has been B.A.D for a very long time. What has happened? Was he always this bad? Was he only slightly better? Were we blinded by the nice guy "i love the peg" persona? Is he overrated? Is he just having a bad season?

Imo i remember a better, more involved, impassioned, all heart Bogo than this. Where did our guy go? Seems it all started with that "Gift".

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[Bristo]

He's having a rough year. He's had some really tough bounces. It's hard to come back from that, tough to turn that around. He might not be good again this year. I expect an off season and some time to sort it out without all the pressure will help.

 

[Samcanadian]

He might just be a guy getting effected extra hard by the state of the team and the negativity towards them. I dunno, they all seem kind of depressed on the ice.

 

[Penderstring]

He signed his big contract and got a girlfriend... go figure.

 

[King Woodballs]

He hasn't been good since his wrist went for complete ****.

 

[Mathmew Purrrr Oh]

I like that he's been a bit more aggro on the offensive side of things but holy crap is he out of it in his own zone - just completely lost

 

[pucka lucka]

He is not the type of defenceman we are playing him as. He's an offensive puck carrying dman, turned into a 3rd rate shut down guy.

 

[Guardian17]

I was very hopeful Bogosian would take his game to another level this season.

Unfortunately, he seems to have regressed.

 

[veganhunter]

He hasn't been great granted (despite a couple of spectacular if not freak blunders), but there are more than a few who have been much worse.

 

[Hunter368]

It's like he's playing in a fog or sand, the harder he tries the worse he plays. He's scored more goals this year on his own net than against other teams.

 

[JustGivingEr]

He needs to be meaner and play more physical

He's an absolute monster physically, but he rarely uses it IMO

 

[tntkid]

It may just be a lack of motivation after landing a guaranteed big contract.

He is capable of doing good things if he feels like it.

 

[pucka lucka]

It may just be a lack of motivation after landing a guaranteed big contract.

He is capable of doing good things if he feels like it.

Yeah, that's it. Guys dedicate their entire lives to becoming the best. Then don't try.

 

[ihadtochangethename]

Yeah, that's it. Guys dedicate their entire lives to becoming the best. Then don't try.

this! i just cant buy this. Not to mention his obvious character as a person, and how excellently management at both levels speak of him. i wonder if he's concealing an injury

 

[garret9]

His numbers are not different than his non-Hainsey numbers over the last two seasons.

He is what he always has been:

*Really good at generating offense for 5v5, but not as good as Buff
*Okay at generating offense for PP
*Physical
*Poor defensively except when he has a steady partner telling him what to do

Numbers pointed for a while that Hainsey made Bogosian's defensive side of the game look better than what it was...

 

[Bob E]

Zach isn't progressing, no doubt.

But who has gotten better under this coaching staff? I'm not sure there is one player who has developed their game, under this coaching staff.

 

[CZ]

Bogo is lost out there

 

[KingBogo]

Not a great game by Bogo tonight but far from the worst d-man. Pretty much a gong show all the way around.

 

[truck]

I did some video analysis on this at AIH

http://www.arcticicehockey.com/2014/1/11/5300080/video-analysis-winnipeg-jets-defensive-breakdowns

 

[Bob E]

I did some video analysis on this at AIH

http://www.arcticicehockey.com/2014/1/11/5300080/video-analysis-winnipeg-jets-defensive-breakdowns

All starting to make sense, truck. Thanks.

 

[truck]

I mentioned this in the AIH preview, but by the numbers Toby - Bogo and Stu - Trouba have been two of the Jets worst defensive pairs this year.

No clue why Noel / Giddy went back to them.

http://www.arcticicehockey.com/2014...ipeg-jets-vs-columbus-blue-jackets/in/5062797

Not a great game by Bogo tonight but far from the worst d-man. Pretty much a gong show all the way around.

 

[pucka lucka]

I did some video analysis on this at AIH

http://www.arcticicehockey.com/2014/1/11/5300080/video-analysis-winnipeg-jets-defensive-breakdowns

I am pretty sure i am a better skater that ol' lumber legs CHarlie Huddy.

 

[ps241]

His numbers are not different than his non-Hainsey numbers over the last two seasons.

He is what he always has been:

*Really good at generating offense for 5v5, but not as good as Buff
*Okay at generating offense for PP
*Physical
*Poor defensively except when he has a steady partner telling him what to do

Numbers pointed for a while that Hainsey made Bogosian's defensive side of the game look better than what it was...

Yea this is about it, I am a fan and will be the first to admit he is struggling this season and missing Hainsey.

 

[Aela*]

I think he might be trying to do to much, and not keeping it simple. Needs to play a simple game in our zone, has been giving up far to many giveaways.

 

[Romang67]

I mentioned this in the AIH preview, but by the numbers Toby - Bogo and Stu - Trouba have been two of the Jets worst defensive pairs this year.

No clue why Noel / Giddy went back to them.

http://www.arcticicehockey.com/2014...ipeg-jets-vs-columbus-blue-jackets/in/5062797

Why players that doesn't work together would be put on the same line / pairing? I highlighted the answer in your post.