Your Teams All-Time NA and Euro Rosters

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  1. theicebox

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    Post your team's All-Time North American and European rosters. I'll get to work on mine, and post later in the thread.
     
  2. EagleBelfour

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    That's the kind of activity you do when you can't find sleep. I'll give it a shot:

    North America

    Coach: Scotty Bowman
    Ass. Coach: Toe Blake
    Ass. Coach: Al Arbour

    Bobby Hull - Wayne Gretzky - Gordie Howe (Can you imagine?)
    Ted Lindsay - Mario Lemieux - Guy Lafleur
    Frank Mahovlich- Jean Béliveau - Maurice Richard
    Mark Messier - Howie Morenz - Cyclone Taylor
    Bryan Trottier
    Bobby Clarke

    Bobby Orr - Doug Harvey
    Eddie Shore - Raymond Bourque
    Denis Potvin - Red Kelly
    Larry Robinson

    Jacques Plante
    Patrick Roy
    Terry Sawchuk

    Europe

    Coach: Anatoli Tarasov
    Ass. Coach: Arkady Chernyshev
    Ass. Coach: Jaroslav Pitner

    Valeri Kharlamov - Stan Mikita - Jaromir Jagr
    Anatoli Firsov - Peter Forsberg - Sergei Makarov
    Sweeney Schriner - Sergei Fedorov - Jari Kurri
    Alexander Ovechkin - Peter Stastny - Boris Mikhailov
    Igor Larionov
    Alexander Maltsev

    Niklas Lidstrom - Slava Fetisov
    Borje Salming - Rod Langway
    Valeri Vasiliev - Alexander Ragulin
    Zdeno Chara

    Dominik Hasek
    Vladislav Tretiak
    Chuck Gardiner
     
  3. Derick*

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    I don't know what team had all of Gretzky, Howe, Orr, Lemieux, and Hasek, but I wonder why more people aren't a fan of it.
     
  4. Nalyd Psycho

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    Vancouver Canucks:

    European:
    Daniel Sedin-Henrik Sedin-Pavel Bure
    Marcus Naslund-Thomas Gradin-Alex Mogilny
    Petri Skirko-Patrick Sundstrom-
    -Igor Larianov-

    Mattias Ohlund-Jyrki Lumme
    Sami Salo-Alex Edler

    That's as much as I can get. Where do Euro-born, NA trained players fit?
     
  5. vadim sharifijanov

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    irbe, backed up by hedberg, then maybe either skudra or noronen.

    EDIT: none of whom got a fair shot in vancouver.
     
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    North America

    Frank Mahovlich - Syl Apps - Gordie Drillon
    Busher Jackson - Darryl Sittler - Charlie Conacher
    Bob Pulford - Dave Keon - Ace Bailey
    Wendel Clark - Ted Kennedy - George Armstrong

    Tim Horton - King Clancy
    Hap Day - Allan Stanley
    Carl Brewer - Bobby Baun

    Turk Broda
    Johnny Bower


    Europe

    Alexei Ponikarovsky - Mats Sundin - Alexander Mogilny
    Miroslav Fycer - Nik Antropov - Alex Steen
    Sergei Berezin - Peter Ihnacak - Nikolai Borschevsky
    Inge Hammarstrom - Mikhail Grabovski - Mikael Renberg

    Borje Salming - Tomas Kaberle
    Dmitry Yuskevich - Pavel Kubina
    Danny Markov - Dmitry Mironov

    Jonus Gustavsson
    Vesa Toskala


    Obviously a team as old as Toronto will be heavily skewed towards Canadian players. But still, I was really struggling to find Europeans who were even average NHLers for more than a year or two on the Leafs. At least Aki Berg didn't make it.
     
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    I'd suggest Kulemin or Hoglund over Hammarstrom. Svehla only played one year with the Leafs, but he should at least get honourable mention, he was a pretty good player.
     
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    Oh, I see now what the OP wanted :)

    I'll try my luck later for the Montreal Canadiens.
     
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    You know you wanted to put Robert Nordmark on that team.
     
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    Here's my take on the Oilers:

    Team North America

    Anderson - Gretzky - Linseman
    Smyth - Messier - Guerin
    Simpson - Weight - Grier
    Callighen - Horcoff - Buchberger
    MacTavish Marchant

    Coffey - Lowe
    Huddy - Gregg
    Fogolin - J. Smith
    Staois

    Fuhr
    Ranford
    Moog

    Team Europe

    Tikkanen - M. Hagman - Kurri
    Klima - Beranek - Hemsky
    Ciger - R. Nilsson - Kovalenko
    Pouzar - Lindgren - Dvorak
    Lindstrom

    S. Smith - Niinimaa
    Mironov - Siltanen
    Kravchuk - Hamrlik
    Grebeshkov

    Salo
    Markkanen
    Khabibulin


    If you don't accept Steve Smith (born in Scotland) on team Europe, tack on Igor Ulanov at the end of the defence corps. Most surprising on this list was the lack of European centres. Nilsson played more wing with the Oilers, so that's kind of a stretch.

    I only included players that played at least 150 (actually 147) games with the Oilers.
     
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    Why? Kulemin might be the better player in the future but not right now. The team could use a Robert Reichel though.
     
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    Mahovlich - Beliveau - B. Geoffrion
    Joliat - Morenz - Lafleur
    Moore - Lalonde - Maurice
    Gainey - Henri - Provost

    X : Lemaire, Malone (gasp!). Carbonneau gets left aside, even though Gainey - Carbo - Provost would be the ultimate shutdown line that anybody could do.

    Robinson - Savard
    Harvey - Bouchard
    Cleghorn - Reardon
    Xtra : Langway - Lapointe (I just think Reardon - Cleghorne makes an extremely interesting pairing, and that Bouchard-Harvey is a natural pairing)

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    Naslund - Koivu - Kovalev
    Rucinsky - Plekanec - Zednik
    A. Kostitsyn - Zubrus - Petrov
    Sundstrom - Bulis - Dackell
    X : Zholtok (5th C was Sébastien Bordeleau, until I somehow remembered about Plekanec, and then Bonk, and then Lang), Dahlin, Dackell



    Hall - Markov
    Svoboda - Hamrlik
    Ulanov - Streit
    X : Popovic, Malakhov (I just don't want him...), but he'd be there instead of Ulanov I guess.

    Vokoun (...)
    Halak
    Huet
     
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    How about Ehrhoff?
     
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    Come on, Vokoun played 20 minutes with us!
     
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    North-America

    Lindsay - Yzerman - Howe
    Shanahan - Delvecchio - Abel
    Lewis - Ullman - Syd Howe
    Maltby - Draper - McCarty

    Kelly - Provonost
    Stewart - Gadsby
    Quackenbush - Goldham

    Sawchuck
    Lumley

    Europe

    Zetterberg - Datsyuk - Holmström
    Kozlov - Fedorov - Larionov
    Franzén - Filppula - Klima
    Sandström - Lang - Hossa

    Lidström - Fetisov
    Konstantinov - Kronwall
    Olausson - Fischer

    Hasek
    Larsson
     
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    Yeah....
    David Aebischer... :cry:
     
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    I don't think any NA team can beat the Canadiens, but this should be one of the more competitive Euro teams:

    Detroit Red Wings Euro Team

    Zetterberg - Fedorov - Sandstrom
    Kozlov - Larionov - Hossa
    Holmstrom - Datsyuk - Franzen
    Klima - Lang - Nedomansky

    Lidstrom - Fetisov
    Salming - Samuelsson
    Konstantinov - Olausson

    Hasek
    (Larsson, though he has not dressed yet)
     
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    Quite similar to my version, though I have Nedomansky over Filppula and Salming and Samuelsson over Kronwall and Fischer.
     
  19. TheDevilMadeMe

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    Team North America:

    Aaron Broten - Kirk Muller - John MacLean
    Stephane Richer - Scott Gomez - Claude Lemieux
    Zach Parise - Jason Arnott - Pat Verbeek
    Jay Pandolfo - John Madden - Jamie Langenbrunner

    Extras: Doug Gilmour (he only played 2 season with them, but would be the best center in franchise history if going by peak with the team), Randy McKay, Brian Gionta

    Scott Stevens - Brian Rafalski
    Ken Daneyko - Scott Niedermayer
    Paul Martin - Bruce Driver

    Extras: Colin White, Joe Cirella

    Martin Brodeur
    Sean Burke
    Chris Terreri

    Team Europe:

    Patrik Elias - Peter Stastny - Petr Sykora
    Valeri Zelepukin - Patrik Sundstrom - Alexander Mogilny
    Sergei Brylin - Bobby Holik - Danius Zubrus
    Zdeno Ciger - Sergei Nemchinov - Jan Ludvig

    Extra: Alexander Semak

    Slava Fetisov - Alexei Kasatonov
    Tommy Albelin - Johnny Oduya
    Vladimir Malakhov - Uli Hiemer

    Extra: Jaroslav Modry, Oleg Tverdovsky

    Johan Hedberg
    Yann Denis

    Stastny, Fetisov, and Kasatonov were all way past their primes when they were on the team, but what better options are there?

    I'll be honest, I had to go to hockey-reference.com to find Ludvig, Hiemer, and the goalies.

    And yes, Martin Brodeur's last 2 backups with a combined 8 wins between them for the team really are the best Euro options for the team in goal.
     
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    Can anyone think of a team with a better all-Euro team than all-NA?

    At first I thought Buffalo with Hasek (and Zhitnik and Satan), but their forwards from the 70s + Peca proably give them a better NA team even with the downgrade from Hasek.

    I guess it would pretty much have to be a team that came into existence after the fall of the Iron Curtain.
     
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    The Thrashers would be my first impression... and I've got a feeling Ottawa would be a pretty easy case as well ...
     
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    Ehhhh...
    Yann Danis is from Quebec.

    As for your NA D-Men, would Phil Russel make the Devils NA Team? He only played two seasons and a half, it was at the end of his career, but nonetheless made All Star Game... But Cirella DID play longer... I don't know...
     
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    (Disclaimer: I'm not an expert on the Thrashers)

    Atlanta Euro team is definitely stronger.

    ATLANTA THRASHERS

    North America

    Shawn McEachern - Marc Savard - Rich Peverley
    Andrew Brunette - Todd White - Scott Mellanby
    Donald Audette - Ray Ferraro - Colby Armstrong
    Bryan Little - Jim Slater - J.P. Vigier
    Tony Hrkac
    Eric Boulton

    Yannick Tremblay - Andy Sutton
    Ron Hainsey - Greg De Vries
    Chris Tamer - Garnet Exelby
    Zach Bogosian

    Damian Rhodes
    Norm Maracle
    Michael Garnett

    Europe

    Ilya Kovalchuk - Bobby Holik - Marian Hossa
    Dany Heatley - Patrik Stefan - Vyacheslav Kozlov
    Tomi Kallio - Andreas Karlsson - Nikolai Antropov
    Maxim Afinogenov - Niko Kapanen - Per Svartvadet
    Ronald Petrovicky
    Lubos Bartecko

    Tobias Enstrom - Frantisek Kaberle
    Niclas Havelid - Daniel Tjarnqvist
    Shane Hnidy - Alexei Zhitnik
    Boris Valabik

    Kari Lehtonen
    Pasi Nurminen
    Milan Hnilicka
     
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    MINNESOTA WILD

    North America

    Andrew Brunette - Pierre-Marc Bouchard - Mark Parrish
    Pascal Dupuis - Brian Rolston - Alexandre Daigle
    Stephane Veilleux - Eric Belanger - Wes Walz
    Derek Boogaard - Jim Dowd - Darby Hendrickson
    James Sheppard
    Matt Johnson

    Brent Burns - Willie Mitchell
    Nick Schultz - Kurtis Foster
    Greg Zanon - Keith Carney
    Brad Bombardir

    Dwayne Roloson
    Manny Fernandez
    Josh Harding


    Europe

    Pavol Demitra - Mikko Koivu - Marian Gaborik
    Antti Laaksonen - Sergei Zholtok - Antti Miettinen
    Richard Park - Branko Radivojevic - Owen Nolan
    Martin Havlat - Roman Simicek - Sergei Krivokrasov
    Maxim Sushinski
    Rickard Wallin

    Filip Kuba - Marek Zidlicky
    Kim Johnsson - Andrei Zyuzin
    Lubomir Sekeras - Martin Skoula
    Petteri Nummelin

    Niklas Backstrom
    Anton Khudobin
    (____________)


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    - I thought the Europe team would have it easy against the NA with Gaborik, Backstrom and Koivu, but the lack of depth is alarming

    - Havlat and Nolan's name look impressive it this lineup, but we have to remember they only played 73 and 132 games respectively

    - Backstrom is probably the best goaltender in Minnesota history, but I remember Roloson and Fernandez to be quite a very tandem. After Backstrom, only Khudobin is an European born goaltender who played any minutes with the Wild

    - The lack of depth at RW for the North American is very alarming (Yes, Alexandre Daigle is the best available option for that scoring line!)

    All in all, I think the European side, while lacking some depth, have the better team.
     
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    Oops. Well then... I guess Hedberg's backup has to be this fine NHL goaltender:

    http://www.hockey-reference.com/players/k/kamppha01.html

    1-10-1 record with the team, .846 save %, 5.02 GAA

    Cirella was kind of one of the faces of the defense for a long time, so I felt he had to be included as an honorable mention. He did play in a single All Star game himself in 1984.
     

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