Your Mid-Season Grades

AlvintheChoster

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Now that the Jets have played half of the season, what are your Mid-Season Grades?

Andrew Ladd
Blake Wheeler
Evander Kane
Bryan Little
Tobias Enstrom
Dustin Byfuglien
Nik Antropov
Ron Hainsey
Olli Jokinen
Grant Clitsome
Alexander Burmistrov
Paul Postma
Kyle Wellwood
Zach Bogosian
Jim Slater
Chris Thorburn
Mark Stuart
Eric Tangradi
James Wright
Ondrej Pavelec
Al Montoya

Penalty Kill
Power Play

Claude Noel
Kevin Cheveldayoff

Overall

Played for the Jets, but most likely incomplete grade:
Zach Redmond
Anthony Peluso
Antti Miettinen
Mark Scheifele
 

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I don't think anyone reads peoples answers on these, but they are fun so here goes:


Andrew Ladd A
Blake Wheeler B
Evander Kane A
Bryan Little B
Tobias Enstrom B-
Dustin Byfuglien B-
Nik Antropov C
Ron Hainsey B
Olli Jokinen D
Grant Clitsome F
Alexander Burmistrov C-
Paul Postma C+
Kyle Wellwood D
Zach Bogosian B
Jim Slater C
Chris Thorburn F
Mark Stuart C
Eric Tangradi C
James Wright A+
Ondrej Pavelec C
Al Montoya A

Penalty Kill B
Power Play D

Claude Noel B
Kevin Cheveldayoff A

Overall C+


Played for the Jets, but most likely incomplete grade:
Zach Redmond B+
Anthony Peluso C
Antti Miettinen C
Mark Scheifele B


I kept the players abilities/ expectations/ ceilings in mind.
 
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KCjetsfan

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My grading is a mixture of performance versus expectations, I guess.
Now that the Jets have played half of the season, what are your Mid-Season Grades?

Andrew Ladd A
Blake Wheeler B
Evander Kane B+
Bryan Little B
Tobias Enstrom B+
Dustin Byfuglien B+
Nik Antropov C
Ron Hainsey C+
Olli Jokinen C
Grant Clitsome B-
Alexander Burmistrov B
Paul Postma B-
Kyle Wellwood C+
Zach Bogosian B
Jim Slater B
Chris Thorburn D
Mark Stuart B-
Eric Tangradi D
James Wright A
Ondrej Pavelec overallC+ lately B
Al Montoya B-

Penalty Kill D at 29th overall, can't be better than a D, but past 7 or 8 games obviously an A
Power Play F+

Claude Noel C
Kevin Cheveldayoff B-

Overall

Played for the Jets, but most likely incomplete grade:
Zach Redmond
Anthony Peluso
Antti Miettinen
Mark Scheifele
 

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A- Ladd, Kane
B+ Buff, Enstrom, Bogosian, Hainsey

Everyone else is in the C and below range, no one besides Wright and Peluso actually exceeded expectations out of the top group. And they haven't scored yet lol
 

theamazingchris

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Andrew Ladd A
Blake Wheeler B
Evander Kane A+
Bryan Little B-
Tobias Enstrom A
Dustin Byfuglien B
Nik Antropov B
Ron Hainsey B-
Olli Jokinen F
Grant Clitsome D
Alexander Burmistrov C
Paul Postma C-
Kyle Wellwood C-
Zach Bogosian B+
Jim Slater D+
Chris Thorburn F
Mark Stuart C+
Eric Tangradi C
James Wright A-
Ondrej Pavelec D
Al Montoya B+

Penalty Kill B+
Power Play C-

Claude Noel B
Kevin Cheveldayoff C

Overall C+
GPA 2.4

Played for the Jets, but most likely incomplete grade:
Zach Redmond C+
Anthony Peluso C
Antti Miettinen C
Mark Scheifele B
 

Positive

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I don't think anyone reads peoples answers on these, but they are fun so here goes:

Grant Clitsome F

Bit harsh on Grant there. 7 pts in 21 games and he's a +5. Only 4 pims. 40 hits (second amongst Jets defensemen). Checked well against Tampa. I think he's played decently aside from that horrible, horrible giveaway last night.
 

Duke749

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The only one that stands out to me JET about your grades is Chevys. Don't see how you can give him an "A" when he's done very little to this point. Now I don't think he deserves lower then a B- because Wright was a good pickup, but he hasn't been stellar which is how I would interpret an "A" or higher rating.
 

sipowicz

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Prof. Sip's mark's are in:

Andrew Ladd A+
Blake Wheeler B+
Evander Kane A ( I don't care what Ladd got Evander, he's the captain and he has more goals)
Bryan Little B-
Tobias Enstrom A
Dustin Byfuglien B
Nik Antropov C-
Ron Hainsey B
Olli Jokinen C-
Grant Clitsome C
Alexander Burmistrov D
Paul Postma C
Kyle Wellwood D
Zach Bogosian B+ (Changed to an A upon appeal)
Jim Slater C-
Chris Thorburn D
Mark Stuart C+
Eric Tangradi F
James Wright B
Ondrej Pavelec C
Al Montoya B

Penalty Kill C+
Power Play F

Claude Noel C
Kevin Cheveldayoff C-
Charlie Huddy B
Perry Pearn D-
Pascal Vincent C (what does he do again)
Wade Flaherty B

Overall C

Played for the Jets, but most likely incomplete grade:
Zach Redmond B
Anthony Peluso B
Antti Miettinen C-
Mark Scheifele B

Crowd at MTS Centre B+ (A+ last season)
 
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puck stoppa

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The only one that stands out to me JET about your grades is Chevys. Don't see how you can give him an "A" when he's done very little to this point. Now I don't think he deserves lower then a B- because Wright was a good pickup, but he hasn't been stellar which is how I would interpret an "A" or higher rating.

He gave him an A cause he thought Chevy drafted Couturier :sarcasm: jk. The one guy I will have higher than most is Burmi. I think he is playing just fine and although his offensive numbers don't show it I think he is a more valuable player than a C rating.
 

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No offense I like James Wright but I don't get the ratings. A+? And Ladd, who is setting career highs right now, only gets an A?

Wright is doing nothing out of the ordinary for him. 22 games, 0g,1a, -6, 24 pims. With Tampa in 49 games he had 5 pts, -11.
 

Romang67

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Andrew Ladd A
Blake Wheeler B
Evander Kane A
Bryan Little B
Tobias Enstrom A
Dustin Byfuglien B
Nik Antropov D
Ron Hainsey C
Olli Jokinen F
Grant Clitsome C
Alexander Burmistrov C
Paul Postma C
Kyle Wellwood D
Zach Bogosian B
Jim Slater C
Chris Thorburn D
Mark Stuart C
Eric Tangradi F
James Wright B
Ondrej Pavelec C
Al Montoya B

Penalty Kill F
Power Play F

Claude Noel C
Kevin Cheveldayoff C

Overall C

Played for the Jets, but most likely incomplete grade:
Zach Redmond
Anthony Peluso
Antti Miettinen
Mark Scheifele

Something like that.
 
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peg

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If its based on ceiling/expectations I don't know how one Mr. Anthony Peluso could be anything less than an A+ :)
 

peg

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If you extrapolate Peluso's 5 games over an entire 82 game season, he would have 32 points, would be a +16, would have had 225 penalty minutes, and would have saved 16 lives. A++ :handclap:
 

Jeti

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I don't know how anyone could give Clitsome such a bad grade. He was bad at the start of the year and he has his boneheaded moments but he's been crucial since Enstrom went down. No one else (besides Enstrom) plays that well with Buff. He has had top minutes many nights against strong opposition and come out a plus player. If you can give Wright an A for exceeding expectations as a waiver pickup and I would, you have to give Clitsome at least the same grade.

A waiver pickup who has stepped up to play top minutes and not cost us games is more than you can ask for.

Since Enstrom's injury Clitsome has 5 pts in 10 GP, is +8 and averages >20:00 TOI. Before Enstrom's injury he had 2 pts in 11 GP, was -3 and averaged ~13:00 TOI. Personally I'd weight what he's done recently higher because the Jets have needed him more. He's also 3rd on the Jets D in blocked shots and 2nd in hits.
 
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Andy6

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Andrew Ladd A
Blake Wheeler B
Evander Kane B+
Bryan Little B-
Tobias Enstrom A-
Dustin Byfuglien B+
Nik Antropov C
Ron Hainsey B+
Olli Jokinen C
Grant Clitsome B
Alexander Burmistrov B
Paul Postma C+
Kyle Wellwood B-
Zach Bogosian B+
Jim Slater C+
Chris Thorburn C
Mark Stuart B-
Eric Tangradi C+
James Wright A-
Ondrej Pavelec B+
Al Montoya B+

Penalty Kill B-
Power Play F

Claude Noel B+
Kevin Cheveldayoff B+
 

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Bit harsh on Grant there. 7 pts in 21 games and he's a +5. Only 4 pims. 40 hits (second amongst Jets defensemen). Checked well against Tampa. I think he's played decently aside from that horrible, horrible giveaway last night.

I think that Grant plays well for stretches of time in games, but then he makes horrific mistakes that often end up in the back of our net. The TB game I remember a sequence late where he choked with the puck behind our net when we had the lead, turned it over, then in front of the net he poked it right to a Lightning player as opposed to any other play that would have been better.

When he is bad, he is terrible.
 

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I don't think anyone reads peoples answers on these, but they are fun so here goes:


Andrew Ladd A
Blake Wheeler B
Evander Kane A
Bryan Little B
Tobias Enstrom B-
Dustin Byfuglien B-
Nik Antropov C
Ron Hainsey B
Olli Jokinen D
Grant Clitsome F
Alexander Burmistrov C-
Paul Postma C+
Kyle Wellwood D
Zach Bogosian B
Jim Slater C
Chris Thorburn F
Mark Stuart C
Eric Tangradi C
James Wright A+
Ondrej Pavelec C
Al Montoya A

Penalty Kill B
Power Play D

Claude Noel B
Kevin Cheveldayoff A

Overall C+


Played for the Jets, but most likely incomplete grade:
Zach Redmond B+
Anthony Peluso C
Antti Miettinen C
Mark Scheifele B


I kept the players abilities/ expectations/ ceilings in mind.

How is Montoya an A with a .909 save %? Isnt that below average?
 

DarthMonty

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I don't know how anyone could give Clitsome such a bad grade. He was bad at the start of the year and he has his boneheaded moments but he's been crucial since Enstrom went down. No one else (besides Enstrom) plays that well with Buff. He has had top minutes many nights against strong opposition and come out a plus player. If you can give Wright an A for exceeding expectations as a waiver pickup and I would, you have to give Clitsome at least the same grade.

A waiver pickup who has stepped up to play top minutes and not cost us games is more than you can ask for.

Since Enstrom's injury Clitsome has 5 pts in 10 GP, is +8 and averages >20:00 TOI. Before Enstrom's injury he had 2 pts in 11 GP, was -3 and averaged ~13:00 TOI. Personally I'd weight what he's done recently higher because the Jets have needed him more. He's also 3rd on the Jets D in blocked shots and 2nd in hits.

This is only my perception, of course, but it appears Clitsome has improved measurably since last year. Although he has a propensity to serve up the occasional extra large pizza, he has definitely improved along the boards, has gained enough confidence to defend against Ovechkin and break up a scoring chance. He is still prone to abandoning his post, and has difficulty sometimes handling passes, but also seems to have improved at standing his ground in the neutral zone and eliminating rushes along the wall.

All in all, I would've graded him at F last year, but he has earned a solid, if unspectacular C- this season.

As for the rest of the team, well, Ladd and Kane get A+ marks, Bogosian, Enstrom, Wright and Peluso (small sample, but come on) get A, Buff, Wheels, Montoya (small sample again) get B-, everybody else gets C or worse.

Kane and Ladd have played above expectations without a doubt, and Kane better get locked up as a Jet for life. Ladd is showing why he is the captain, and Bogo is showing why he will be the future captain.

That's all.
 

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How is Montoya an A with a .909 save %? Isnt that below average?

Because A> he's 3-0, and B> he's done what he's done in a very difficult situation, seeing limited ice time.

You can't compare Montoya's sv% with Pavelec's because Montoya has faced far, far less shots.

Besides, if you are trying to measure your starting goalies performance with the same stick as your backup, you are setting yourself up for failure. Surely you can see the difference in roles and expectations, no?
 

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Andrew Ladd
A+ - How he can get less than this, I have no idea. Perhaps since people expect more of a physical game, honestly I did as well I always thought he was more of power forward since his drafting in 04, but he has really developed into a shooting threat. Not turning the puck over anymore, gets the puck out, leading the team in pretty much every offensive category.

Dustin Byfuglien
A - Can take over games, great offensively, been at least good defensively. Unique talent. Core guy you can build around for sure.

Evander Kane
A- - I'm not nearly as high on Kane as other people, but he creates a ton of offense on his own that's for sure. He is going to be a valuable player for a long time.

Tobias Enstrom
A- - Was dominating offensively when in, been pretty decent defensively as well. Still a top pairing D.

Ron Hainsey
B+ - Valuable depth player, can play almost any role assigned to him, we need his veteran presence to help deal with the inconsistencies of the youngsters like Redmond, Postma on the blueline.

Blake Wheeler
B - Really has not been the dynamic offensive force he was last year, but still has 19pts in 24 games. Been struggling defensively though, has trouble getting puck out, seems to be settling into 2nd line type player, IMO.

Bryan Little
B- - Just another average season from Little, right on career averages for offensive production, not too noticable on either side of the puck. Decent year.

Al Montoya
B- - Has looked real good when he plays, certainly beating my expectations.

Nik Antropov
C+ - Offense has been dissapointing, of course has not had much in the way of support. Can't seem to find a role here, needs to be in a place where he can focus as a defensive forward with only streaky offense, not depended on like he is here.

Alexander Burmistrov
C+ - Was really hoping his offense would start to come. 4th year tends to be when breakouts occur, so it's too early to proclaim it will never come. But he is not creating enough plays right now, we'll see. Obviously his defense has still be solid.

Paul Postma
C+ - Had a great start to the year, has tempered off. His passes have not looked as sharp, he is not creating as many plays with his skating. Needs to improve. However his defense has been much better than I thought, has looked fairly decent positionally, including covering and correcting Clitsome and Stuart at times.

Zach Bogosian
C+ - Has not been up to the standards he set last year. His skating and puckhandling has not been up to par so far this year, IMO.

James Wright
C+ - Great positionally, versatile, hits, but is an absolute black hole offensively. Would be lucky to get to double digit points in an 82 game season. Career 4th liner.

Ondrej Pavelec
C+ - Up and down. Has been consistent of late, but needs to do that for a full season. Keeps playing like he has been and Jets have a playoff chance.

Grant Clitsome
C - He is a #8 D for this team that has been forced into playing everyday, including in the top 4. He is doing a fine job overall, mistakes like last night are to be expected of a guy playing way above his head.

Jim Slater
C - Has not had huge amounts of help, but he is just a 4th line C, IMO. Meh.

Chris Thorburn
C - 4th liner, has done average.

Mark Stuart
C- - Has not been as physical, his positioning is not great, certainly shown he cannot be anything more than a bottom pairing guy.

Eric Tangradi
C- - Has shown a willingness to be physical, cycles decently, but has not shown anything offensively. Would much rather have Poni still.

Olli Jokinen
D+ - This guy was brought in to score. And he is not scoring. That is the bottom line here.

Kyle Wellwood
D- - Hated the re-signing, he is only useful on terrible teams as a top 6 guy. Urgh. Not much should have been expected of him.
 

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