Value of: Your (good) starting goalie to the Flames
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Outside of Bobrovsky and his UFA situation, no one trades a key starting goalie this early into the year. It's basically conceding defeat, and most teams in a position where they think a tank might be a solution, don't have a good starting goalie.
I could see that being an option. A defense of:
Girard - EJ
Cole - Barrie
Zadorov - Brodie
Is definitely enticing.
Alberta_OReilly_Fan
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id be tempted to do
rask
for
smith
and
bennett
I like taking a gamble on bennett and testing to see if we can get that top 5 draft pick value out of him with a fresh start
and a show of confidence from a new team.
smith wont hold up as a straight starter for 50 games but I like him and halak as a duo behind the strong boston defense. smith can get very hot and cross our fingers that happens at playoff time.
its a cap saving for boston this year... and I think for the next 2 years too when smith resigns
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Yes and no. He's elite when healthy and there's nothing to say that he'll get injured again. Let's not forget that last year he missed time because of a freak accident, not because of some recurring injury.
and theres nothing AT ALL that says he'll be healthy 2 days from now. the man has a history of finding ways to consistently miss games, its why you traded forthe best available goalie on the market before this season, because you had ABSOLUTELY Zero confidence that he would be healthy for even a single game this season
Colorado is not trading Grubauer to leave themselves Vulnerable again, and anyone who trades for Varly had better have a Capable backup
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- Apr 25, 2006
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You could say that about any other player in the league.
He's also UFA at the end of the year, that's quite a big deal.
not with the same likelihood of it occurring.....
that may be, but the Point is if youre relying on him and arent suitably protected, you're risking your entire season going up in flames or crashing on the rocks so I doubt either team is willing to risk that.
calgary wouldnt mind acquiring Grubauer but colorado would mind having to depend on Varly
and Colorado may be willing to trade Varly, but Calgary doesnt want to depend on varly either
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This won't happen but ...
IF Vegas could get Valimaki they should trade Fleury.
IF there is a chance to get Rittich try to get him cheap.
Subban is not good enough.
Then Vegas could sign Lehtonen.
Would CGY trade Valimaki for Fleury?
Smith can be good but it's not a surprise he is bad. CGY is being held back by goalie coach Sigalet.
BalticDevil
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Devils could have a decision to make in goal with Kinkaid playing well and Schneider set to return. I'd prefer to trade Schneider if the Flames were willing to take on his contract and gamble on him returning to form after hip surgery.
With that being said we absolutely don't NEED to trade one of Kink/Schneids. We could live with Schneiders cap hit even as a backup and every share of work between the mentioned two is better than having Eddy Lack play 20+ games this year.
But I could definitly see a deal for help in an area of need. Which is the 2nd line and its non-existant scoring. If a deal can be made it would take place not earlier than some weeks from now when we see how a) the goalie situation pans out and b) the 2nd line looks with Bratt back.
With that being said we absolutely don't NEED to trade one of Kink/Schneids. We could live with Schneiders cap hit even as a backup and every share of work between the mentioned two is better than having Eddy Lack play 20+ games this year.
But I could definitly see a deal for help in an area of need. Which is the 2nd line and its non-existant scoring. If a deal can be made it would take place not earlier than some weeks from now when we see how a) the goalie situation pans out and b) the 2nd line looks with Bratt back.
Patty Ice
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I'd deal you Aaron Dell for a 1st rounder (intra-division and all). Bibeau is doing awesome for the 'Cuda and deserves to start his NHL life.
It's time Dell graduates into a full-time starter.
It's time Dell graduates into a full-time starter.
Johnny Hoxville
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Rask is interesting for sure, but my main concern would be the tread he has on him and also I’m not convinced the Flames are ready to contend this year.
I honestly don’t know what the answer is. Schneider also makes some sense if he’s healthy.
I honestly don’t know what the answer is. Schneider also makes some sense if he’s healthy.
gach
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What is really bad is Martin Jones played for the Calgary Hitmen a team that the Flames own and wasn't drafted but no one on the Flames noticed him until LA sign him as a free agent. Someone should have been fired over that one
I hate when people bring Jones up, I honestly thought Calgary was trying to hold off on drafting him until the final round until they skipped him, and when we didn't sign him it was a WTF move, like I'm sure our FO watched him more than any other teams FO did and they didn't see his sparks
blankall
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Lol. Dell is almost 30 and has yet to establish himself as a starter. He has 52 career games. He has no rfa time left.
Goalies like that do not bring back first rounders.
blankall
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I don't think it will cost that much to acquire him in a trade. He's already stated he wants out.
Goalies just don't command that much trade value, as the number of teams looking for them is limited.
Columbus needs to trade him, but shouldn't until it becomes obvious how successful their season will be.
Avs44
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Tough to say what's going on in Sakic's mind. He seems to have accepted this as another sort of 'development year' (in that he didn't do anything to address secondary scoring all off-season, he seems happy to wait until the 2019 off-season at least with his two 1st round picks + Makar joining the fold), so from that perspective Varly should definetely be available. He certainly made moves to replace him this off-season by bringing in Grubauer + Francouz. But then the Avs are winning right now, Varly is playing lights out hockey, and he's one of the longest tenured players on the roster and perhaps an important part of the room. So does he really want to break that up?
Unless Sakic's planning to make a big move to address secondary scoring and wants to seriously compete this year I hope he moves Varly sooner rather than later (since he's healthy, playing really well, and teams badly need keepers), but I also just see Sakic as the sort of GM who might pass on assets for Varly in favour of letting him walk in the off-season, just so that he doesn't shake up a team playing pretty well.
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HockeyGuy1964
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Serious question, how does a team with 4 #1 dmen, according to flames fans, go from comfortably making the playoffs with a weak link goalie one year to missing the playoffs by double digits when your new goalie was deemed as the team MVP 3/4 the way thru last season?
