Your all-time Castoff team

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  1. cynicism

    cynicism Registered User

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    Inspired by a couple of recent threads (most notably the draft busts one) I thought it might be fun to create a team from players that your favorite team has traded away over the years.

    To make this a bit more interesting, the player must have had some modicum of team and/or personal success with his new team(s). So if you were doing Boston, you could list Joe Thornton, but not Bobby Orr since he spent more time in Chicago Hospitals than in Chicago Stadium.

    Since I'm a Toronto fan, here we go

    Goal*
    Bernie Parent
    Tukka Rask
    Ken Wregget

    *Gerry Cheevers was a Leaf draft pick, but he was merely released by the team and not traded (at least according to wiki). Otherwise he would've been an easy inclusion. Wregget became a very dependable backup in Pittsburgh, at times supplanting Barrasso.

    Defense:

    Randy Carlyle-Mathieu Schneider
    Jason Smith-Kenny Jonsson
    Al Iafrate-Larry Murphy
    Luke Richardson

    Forwards:

    Frank Mahovlich-Vincent Damphousse-Lanny Mcdonald
    Dave Andreychuk-Brad Boyes-Fred Modin
    Alex Steen-Yanic Perreault-Russ Courtnall
    Mike Eastwood-Alyn Mcauley-Shawn Thornton

    Stretching it a bit with the forwards. I'm sure I made some glaring omissions.

    Enjoy and come up with your own team!
     
  2. seventieslord

    seventieslord Student Of The Game

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    This thread needs more Steve Sullivan/Toronto Maple Leafs.
     
  3. seventieslord

    seventieslord Student Of The Game

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    Shawn Thornton and Adam Mair have been very solid 4th liners for a while now, and most people forget they were originally Leaf draft picks. Actually, Kevyn Adams was a good 4th liner for a decade too, and the Leafs grabbed him out of college. they had the makings of an energy line with a reasonably skilled tough guy and did'nt even realize it.
     
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    I think the Habs would have the best starting lineup.

    Leclair - Turgeon - Recchi
    Desjardins - Chelios
    Roy
     
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    Here's my take for the Oilers:

    Smyth - Gretzky - Kurri
    Rucinsky - Messier - Czerkawski
    Gelinas - Arnott- Guerin
    Maltby - Weight - Satan
    Cleary Stoll


    Coffey - Pronger
    Hamrlik - Manson
    Beukeboom - McGillis
    Greene

    Moog
    Fuhr
    Ranford

    I basically excluded anyone whose career took a direct linear path into the ground after they left, which fits many of the post-dynasty ex-Oilers (tikkanen, lowe, etc). I also excluded anyone here for an uneventful mid-career cup of coffee (damphousse, nicholls, pitkanen). Too bad I couldn't put in stupid waiver dumps (ray whitney comes to mind)
     
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    MXD Original #4

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    Did the player had to have MORE success with his other team?!?!?!

    For whatever reason, I suspect the Rangers will have the most terrific team.
     
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    Canes only:
    Cory Stillman - Keith Primeau - Jeff O'Neill
    Geoff Sanderson - Andrew Cassels - Erik Cole*
    Sami Kapanen - Josef Vasicek* - Patrick Eaves
    Craig Adams - Kevyn Adams - Byron Ritchie

    Jack Johnson - Sandis Ozolinsh
    David Tanabe* - Marek Malik
    Nolan Pratt - Mike Commodore

    JS Giguere
    Sean Burke
    Manny Legace*

    Whalers/Canes:

    Cory Stillman - Ron Francis* - Pat Verbeek
    Geoff Sanderson - Andrew Cassels - Sami Kapanen
    Ray Ferraro - Keith Primeau - Scott Young
    Andrei Nikolishin - Bobby Holik - Kevin Dineen
    Sylvain Turgeon, Michael Nylander

    Mark Howe - Chris Pronger
    Ulf Samuelsson - Sylvain Cote
    Joe Reekie - Sandis Ozolinsh
    Jack Johnson

    JS Giguere
    Sean Burke
    Manny Legace*

    * - indicates the player was brought back at some point.
     
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    for players they cast off, and then they had more success somewhere else?

    no, the Rangers are the opposite!
     
  9. MXD

    MXD Original #4

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    I don't know, before editing, I said the Hawks (and trying to come up with a team) but realized the Hawks got so many cast-offs, so that they wouldn't be great. But I forgot somebody...

    Well, for the Rangers, they start with Chabot, Worsley and Bower in the crease, which isn't half-bad.
     
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    I give it a try for the Hawks


    Olmstead - Esposito - Hodge === Basically, a better version of the Nitro Line.
    Stasiuk - M. Bentley - MacKenzie
    Dumont - Stanfield - Topazzini
    Moreau - Prystai - Schmautz
    X : Olzyck, Tanti, Cleary

    Gadsby - Stanley == Might be stuck playing Crossman because they need offence, but damn, how many shots Hasek would see?!?!?!
    Reise - Goldham
    Van Impe - Korab
    X : Robidas, Crossman

    Hasek
    Lumley
    (One of Meloche or Gerry Desjardins)

    I kept out guys like Art Coulter (his career high was in NY, but it's not like Chicago was a a low), Dave Manson (defining years in Chicago, even though he spent only few year in Chi) and Belfour (won the Cup in Dallas, but defining years in Chicago).
     
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    Weight, Amonte, Savard, Kovalev, Zubov, Knuble, Norstrom, Malholtra, etc ;)
     
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    I'm probably forgetting some obvious players here for the Rangers, but I'll give it a shot:

    Gagner-Ratelle-Middleton
    Sandstrom-Ridley-Kovalev
    Dahlen-Weight-Amonte
    Granato-Savard-Knuble (not a NYR draft pick, but he first became an NHL regular with us)
    HM: Marchant, Malhotra, Dominic Moore, Mikael Samuelsson (same as Knuble)

    Park-Zubov
    Norstrom-Kjell Samuelsson
    Kim Jonsson-Tinordi
    HM: Ledyard

    Bower
    Vanbiesbrouck



    I figured guys like Ray Sheppard and Mathieu Schneider wouldn't count since they played with the Rangers in the middle of their career and enjoyed success before and after.
     
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    Here's one Boston take:

    Al Secord.................Phil Esposito............Reggie Leach
    Geoff Courtnall..........Joe Thornton...........Phil Kessel
    Sergei Samsonov.......Pit Martin................Anson Carter
    Mike Krushelnyski.......Rick Macleish...........Mariusz Czerkawski

    Carol Vadnais........Ray Bourque
    Gilles Marotte........Pat Stapleton
    Brad Stuart...........Glen Wesley

    Bill Ranford
    John Grahame

    Off the top of my head, at least eight players won stanley cups elsewhere.

    If the list included those drafted away in expansion you could add Parent, Dornhoefer, Lonsberry, Joe Watson etc.
     
  14. cynicism

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    :facepalm:

    I knew I forgot something obvious. Glenn Anderson should be in there too since he won a cup with the Rangers when he got traded for 'Stache Gartner . I wasn't sure to include Mair and Adams, but they deserve to be there.

    @MXD, it doesn't have to be more successful, just successful :p:
     
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    Do waived players (Martin St. Louis) qualify?
     
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    Kovalev-Straka-Jagr
    Laukkanen-Kasparaitis
    Barrasso

    The early part of the 00s was a difficult time for pens fans.

    also, recchi three times.
     
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    I like your team but I wouldn't exclude Tikkanen. He had a fair amount of success outside of Edmonton: Cup in 94 with the Rangers, Finals with Washington in 98, and another deep run with the Rangers in 97 where he was their second leading scorer after Gretzky when they reached the Conference Finals.
     
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    Ken Dryden

    Ken Dryden is hands down the Bruins cast-off goalie with Bernie Parent as the back-up.
     
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    Montreal Cast-offs

    Tony Esposito as the goalie with Rogie Vachon as the back-up.

    D-men.
    Carol Vadnais / Chris Chelios
    Eric Desjardins / Rod Langway
    Slava Fetisov/ Ted Green
    Gary Bergman

    Center
    Ted Kennedy, Ed Litzenberger, Phil Goyette, Pierre Turgeon.

    LW
    Don Marshall, John Leclair, Danny Grant, Ab McDonald.

    RW
    Mickey Redmond, Mark Recchi, Claude Lemieux, Murray Balfour.
     
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    Penguins:

    Naslund - Cullen - Jagr
    Kovalev - Lang - Straka
    Recchi - x - x


    Kasper - Sammuelsson
    Whitney - Laukkanen


    Barrasso
     
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    Doug Jarvis and Rick Kehoe should both be among the Toronto forwards.
     
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    frank mahovlich - marcel dionne - john bucyk
    roy conacher - adam oates - mike foligno
    adam graves - norm ullman - keith primeau
    peter mahovlich - don luce - garry unger
    sergei fedorov
    pit martin
    mike knuble

    red kelly - marcel pronovost
    bill quackenbush - bucko macdonald
    steve chiasson - ron stackhouse
    brent lebda

    glenn hall
    terry sawchuk
    harry lumley
    roger crozier
    curtis joseph
     
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    Damn it. I had successfully blocked Dryden's trade out of my consciousness.

    Boston, however, never traded Parent, he was claimed by the Flyer's in 1967's expansion draft.
     
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    this is really nitpicky but... Randy Manery would make a much better #7 there. Ron Harris too.
     
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    Al Arbour

    #7, perhaps higher - Al Arbour. Also Doug Harvey played a few games for Detroit after NYR.
     

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