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I could see Cousins going in a deal for one of those expansion-exposed defensemen.
Something around Cousins and Petrovic maybe?
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I could see Cousins going in a deal for one of those expansion-exposed defensemen.
Something around Cousins and Petrovic maybe?
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Appleyard
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Because they have a free spot on defense for expansion - which very few teams have.
If you can get a Dman who is solid for far lower value than usual why not? There are a lot of good young Dmen who will be exposed. Players can be flipped in future, and the future cannot be predicted. I doubt more than 2 D prospects make the team this year anyway.
PHILOUDELPHIA
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so it sounds like goalie and scoring our top needs to go along with the young D coming up.
Bishop could be a short term
the right sniper could get G going again.
not sure about raffl was hoping he would have the exploding year but he is always hurt.
on a side note everyone has been hoping for the end of amac on this team. if your hextall would you consider the team that takes him that you pay some of the salary and if so how much would you do it for. what would you be comfortable with
Anything less is better then paying full now.
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I would trade Morin for Pulock. Islanders can't protect him and Morin is exempt. Pulock is a much better dman.
Provorv -Gudas
Ghost - Pulock
Sanheim -Myers
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Overall Hextall has done a good job, including some excellent moves. I agree with his philosophy in building a winner. There are some red flags with respect to contracts, pro scouting/player evaluation and of course Hakstol.
This year was a rebuilding year. Next year is as well. It really should be about player development. I would have preferred to see at least one young d brought up after the deadline to get their feet wet.
It is one thing to say players have to earn it and that no player was hurt by being left in the minors too long, but it is another to have a cluster of mediocre players on contracts and a coach that loves "reliable" vets. Laughton and Leier need another extended look before being risked going through waivers.
If I was GM:
1- Fire Hakstol. Hire someone like Dineen.
2- ED slot on D is an asset. Look to acquire a d at a discount if possible.
3- Teams that are stuck knowing they will lose a better forward might look to acquire one of Read/Raffl/Weise that isn't taken by Vegas. Trade for a pick.
4- Trade PEB. If 3 teams really had interest he should have been traded at the deadline. Let Vecchione and Laughton fight it out for 4C.
5- Get rid of AMac with salary retained.
6- Attempt to trade Neuvirth. Stolarz or Lyon as backup wouldn't be worse than what Neuvirth was this year.
7- Sign Mason to a two year deal. He likely bounces back and is serviceable during the rebuilding phase.
8- Keep Weal.
This year was a rebuilding year. Next year is as well. It really should be about player development. I would have preferred to see at least one young d brought up after the deadline to get their feet wet.
It is one thing to say players have to earn it and that no player was hurt by being left in the minors too long, but it is another to have a cluster of mediocre players on contracts and a coach that loves "reliable" vets. Laughton and Leier need another extended look before being risked going through waivers.
If I was GM:
1- Fire Hakstol. Hire someone like Dineen.
2- ED slot on D is an asset. Look to acquire a d at a discount if possible.
3- Teams that are stuck knowing they will lose a better forward might look to acquire one of Read/Raffl/Weise that isn't taken by Vegas. Trade for a pick.
4- Trade PEB. If 3 teams really had interest he should have been traded at the deadline. Let Vecchione and Laughton fight it out for 4C.
5- Get rid of AMac with salary retained.
6- Attempt to trade Neuvirth. Stolarz or Lyon as backup wouldn't be worse than what Neuvirth was this year.
7- Sign Mason to a two year deal. He likely bounces back and is serviceable during the rebuilding phase.
8- Keep Weal.
CodyTheHuman
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Not likely. He'll get 4-5 years this summer for too much money.
I would like to trade Neuvirth for a pick. Sign Mason. Have Stolarz back him up.
Fire the assistant coaches, bring in new ones. Hakstol will stay for at least the next season I feel.
Promote Morin and Sanheim.
Lose Read/Weise in expansion draft.
Sign Lindblom.
Lindblom - Giroux - Simmonds
Konecny/Schenn - Couturier - Voracek
Weal - Filppula - Schenn/Konecny
Laughton/Bellemare - Vecchione/Laughton - Bellemare/Vecchione
Provorov - Gudas
Morin - Gostisbehere
Hagg - MacDonald
Mason
Stolarz
Something like that
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The assistants on the coaching staff would go. I'd like to see one assistant with head coaching experience in the NHL brought on board, one coach who has had success in major junior and one coach who has had success as an assistant with other franchises.
Hope that one of Read, Raffl or Weise gets picked up in the expansion draft (preferably Read, but more than likely Raffl).
Lock up Jordan Weal to a 2 year prove it contract as well. 2 years/$2.5 million. 1.1 the first season, 1.4 the second.
Buy out Andrew McDonald or eat some salary in a move. He's got three years left, so eat 45% of the contract. Even if it means future considerations, a spot has opened up on the defense.
Promote Hagg, Morin, and Sanheim to the defense. Is it too much youth? Maybe. But get an experienced assistant who can handle young defenders and it shouldn't be something that blows up.
Obviously getting Oskar Lindblom under contract is a must, but so too is Mikhail Vorobyov.
At the draft, the hope is that one of Glass, Petterrsson or Negas is available when the Flyers pick. If they aren't, move down in the draft, grab a guy like Nick Suzuki and add more picks.
Finally, in free agency, there are only a few players I'd like to see them target. I'd like to see Jonathan Bernier signed to a 1 year/$3 million deal. A prove it deal and see how he responds with Dillabough as the goaltending coach (there's history there as well with Hextall, Dillabough and Bernier). Second, get Gostisbehere signed to a bridge contract. A two year deal for $4.7 million - 2.2 million the first year, 2.5 for the second. Finally, a legitimate veteran defenseman to help Gudas with mentoring the young guys. I'd love a guy like Karl Alzner or Shattenkirk, but that's too much money and years. A guy like Trevor Daley wouldn't be a bad target to bring on board to help with the younger defenseman.
Finally, last move. I know it's not a popular one, but at some point, Wayne Simmonds is either going to be extended or traded. As it stands, with Simmonds, Schenn and Voracek, there's nearly $18 million tied up on the right wing. That's too much money for one position. Three things: either move Voracek, move Schenn or move Simmonds. If you look at the three, who would bring the most in return? I think if it became known that Simmonds was available, you could start a bidding war and really land a treasure chest for him. At a minimum, it starts with a blue chip prospect (defense or forward), a young roster player (right wing preferably) and finally multiple draft picks (there needs to be at least a 1st in the package). I'm sure teams like Montreal, Boston, San Jose, Anaheim, etc...would all be interested.
Hope that one of Read, Raffl or Weise gets picked up in the expansion draft (preferably Read, but more than likely Raffl).
Lock up Jordan Weal to a 2 year prove it contract as well. 2 years/$2.5 million. 1.1 the first season, 1.4 the second.
Buy out Andrew McDonald or eat some salary in a move. He's got three years left, so eat 45% of the contract. Even if it means future considerations, a spot has opened up on the defense.
Promote Hagg, Morin, and Sanheim to the defense. Is it too much youth? Maybe. But get an experienced assistant who can handle young defenders and it shouldn't be something that blows up.
Obviously getting Oskar Lindblom under contract is a must, but so too is Mikhail Vorobyov.
At the draft, the hope is that one of Glass, Petterrsson or Negas is available when the Flyers pick. If they aren't, move down in the draft, grab a guy like Nick Suzuki and add more picks.
Finally, in free agency, there are only a few players I'd like to see them target. I'd like to see Jonathan Bernier signed to a 1 year/$3 million deal. A prove it deal and see how he responds with Dillabough as the goaltending coach (there's history there as well with Hextall, Dillabough and Bernier). Second, get Gostisbehere signed to a bridge contract. A two year deal for $4.7 million - 2.2 million the first year, 2.5 for the second. Finally, a legitimate veteran defenseman to help Gudas with mentoring the young guys. I'd love a guy like Karl Alzner or Shattenkirk, but that's too much money and years. A guy like Trevor Daley wouldn't be a bad target to bring on board to help with the younger defenseman.
Finally, last move. I know it's not a popular one, but at some point, Wayne Simmonds is either going to be extended or traded. As it stands, with Simmonds, Schenn and Voracek, there's nearly $18 million tied up on the right wing. That's too much money for one position. Three things: either move Voracek, move Schenn or move Simmonds. If you look at the three, who would bring the most in return? I think if it became known that Simmonds was available, you could start a bidding war and really land a treasure chest for him. At a minimum, it starts with a blue chip prospect (defense or forward), a young roster player (right wing preferably) and finally multiple draft picks (there needs to be at least a 1st in the package). I'm sure teams like Montreal, Boston, San Jose, Anaheim, etc...would all be interested.
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Pulock is redundant within our group of defensemen. Morin is unique to it.
No way would I trade Morin for Pulock. Watching Morin punish our forwards in Islanders games for the next 7-10 years would be a kick in the balls.
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That Ghost bridge deal wouldnt get it done. Would probably need to be at least $3 million per.
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*Repeal and replace assistant coaching staff...Keep Hakstoll (at least 1 more season)
*Read - Raffl - Weise...1 taken in ED...1 traded
*Sign Ghost 5 yrs 4.9 per
*Sigh Weal 2 yrs 1.1 per
*Sign Mason or some other stop gap goalie for 2 yrs.
*Trade Andrew McDonald…50% retained.
*Bring in Morin and Sanheim.
*Bring in Oskar Lindblom.
*Take advantage of ED and trade for a good Dman and use last protect on him.
*Draft Best Forward Available.
Come in next year like this…
Lindblom - Giroux - Voracek
Konecny- Couturier - Schenn
Weal - Filppula - Simmonds
Bellemare - Vecchione - Laughton (some combo of these 3)
*Leier, Weise extra fwds.
Provorov - Gudas
Morin - Gostisbehere
Sanheim - New Dman
Mason / stop gap
Neuvirth - traded by next yr TDL.
Stolarz
With better Fwds and better D that should help the Goalies bounce back to form.
*Read - Raffl - Weise...1 taken in ED...1 traded
*Sign Ghost 5 yrs 4.9 per
*Sigh Weal 2 yrs 1.1 per
*Sign Mason or some other stop gap goalie for 2 yrs.
*Trade Andrew McDonald…50% retained.
*Bring in Morin and Sanheim.
*Bring in Oskar Lindblom.
*Take advantage of ED and trade for a good Dman and use last protect on him.
*Draft Best Forward Available.
Come in next year like this…
Lindblom - Giroux - Voracek
Konecny- Couturier - Schenn
Weal - Filppula - Simmonds
Bellemare - Vecchione - Laughton (some combo of these 3)
*Leier, Weise extra fwds.
Provorov - Gudas
Morin - Gostisbehere
Sanheim - New Dman
Mason / stop gap
Neuvirth - traded by next yr TDL.
Stolarz
With better Fwds and better D that should help the Goalies bounce back to form.
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Tripod
I hate this team
I have used the analogy that our young D prospects in Provy, Ghost, Myers and Sanheim are the fingers, with Morin being the thumb that allows you to make a fist and punch the opponent in the mouth. Without the thumb, the fist will lack power.
Morin just fits the other guys so well to CONTRAST their play style. We have no one like him in our prospect pool. He will be that pain in the ass to play against every night. And having he, and Provy on 2 of the PK units and ES units should serve us very well. Throw in Gudas, and we become a physical bunch to match the skill of Ghost, Sanheim, etc....
Next year should be a bigger glimpse into a very bright future for our young D.
Couldn't agree more. We could really use someone to relieve Simmonds from always having to stick up for everyone. I can wait to see Morin absolutely pummel some of the bigger dbags out there like Chimera or Prout.
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LegionOfDoom91
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A lot of Pulock's value comes on the PP. The Flyers already have Gostisbehere & Provorov with the big club. Sanheim & Myers aren't far behind. The NHL is seemingly going away with using 4 defensemen on the PP so who knows if all four will see time there at once. So I'm not really seeing the need for someone like Pulock who's not on those guys level.
This obviously depends on the details to see if it is worth it. If I'm the GM my primary focus would be finding a center to build the team around. I would pull a pens move and bribe whoever I needed to and get the first pick of the draft. We have enough G, D and w prospect depth and quality coming up in the pipeline. C is a huge future question mark. Who knows what is really going on with G hopefully its only getting healthy. Couts is really it. Rubstov has skills but had issues in the K and can't stay healthy playing against boys. I would trade V + for a top young c and move TK to rw.
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Yeah that is another factor..Morin will be a deterrent and a protector on top of being a shutdown dman, anchor for a puck-mover, and mainstay on the PK.
I can't imagine how loud it will be in the Wells when Morin first murders someone in a fight.
Hurricane28
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I think Morin will definitely be a fan favorite. Will also help the PK clearing the crease which is something they struggle mightily to do
LegionOfDoom91
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Not really, a lot of lower leagues have put in even more strict rules against fighting than the NHL has. Essentially thinning the herd on that front.
I think Appleyard is spot on here for what would be ideal and slightly possible. Obviously more line up changes will be needed over time but that would be an excellent start. It might be worth spending on Brodin if you are getting a tender on the cheap. Helps to force out Amac sooner.
So far as Vecchione goes its not as if the Flyers haven't been watching him for quite some time and at his age they should be reasonably certain in his skills and translational value. Not worth signing a guy who doesn't fit.
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