TSN: [Yost] Ottawa Senators pass critical transition point in full-blown rebuild

[supsens]

So, in season 2021-22, we can expect salaries to be “close to the NHL’s salary cap” and remain there until 2025. We shall see.

I hope they are not, they are going to need cap room to add RFA contracts, Brady,Batherson,Brown will all need contracts in 21,then guys like Norris and Bran the two guys we draft this year should be good players that crowd the cap and we are going to start to see problems already by then. If they are already maxed out by 21-22 they will be super screwed

 

[bert]

Yost is arrogant, smug and pompous. A pure numbers guy who for years completely turned a blind eye to actual evaluation of players and events and only focusing on numbers irregardless of the truth.

I'll pass on reading anything he writes.

I find that a strange position considering you'll read what alot of posters post around here. Way less informed opinions.

 

[Matsens15]

Well, next step is to bring established player with all these draft picks..

 

[Sweatred]

People that complain about how much money White is making need to read this article and actually look at the sens cap situation. Being so far below the cap floor is actually an issue. They are in a position to take on a bad contract for more assets but i dont want it to be at the expense of the expansion draft.

So ... since the Sens are below the cap they should over pay their RFA’s ? I think there are better things they could do with that money that would motivate 22 year olds to develop their game and allow the sens to acquire more assets.

 

[YouGotAStuGoing]

I find that a strange position considering you'll read what alot of posters post around here. Way less informed opinions.

Not disagreeing, but none of us are paid to write about hockey. Yost is. It's reasonable to hold him to a higher standard than fellow fans on a message board.

 

[DJB]

I find that a strange position considering you'll read what alot of posters post around here. Way less informed opinions.

I'm not sure exactly how it correlates but I digress.

If it helps I usually gloss over or ignore posters on here who spew numbers constantly to fit their agenda.

 

[AchtzehnBaby]

I'm not sure exactly how it correlates but I digress.

If it helps I usually gloss over or ignore posters on here who spew numbers constantly to fit their agenda.

I watched Moneyball for the first time on the weekend. Maybe PD is the Yale kid

 

[JD1]

I watched Moneyball for the first time on the weekend. Maybe PD is the Yale kid

Awesome movie

 

[FunkySeeFunkyDoo]

I watched Moneyball for the first time on the weekend. Maybe PD is the Yale kid

LOL.

 

[Cosmix]

I hope they are not, they are going to need cap room to add RFA contracts, Brady,Batherson,Brown will all need contracts in 21,then guys like Norris and Bran the two guys we draft this year should be good players that crowd the cap and we are going to start to see problems already by then. If they are already maxed out by 21-22 they will be super screwed

The fans have already been super screwed by this franchise.

I suspect the FYOUS was PR BS.

I doubt that the Sens will sign any expensive UFAs nor trade for high quality high salaries players under current ownership that will increase the salaries to near the cap.

 

[Dingle]

how do you measure transition points???

Can you sit here and say any draftee will definitely be a good pro. Or any minor leaguer will end up a good pro.

3 legitimate NHL caliber top 6 forwards and top 4 D. 7 more are needed. All of whom must come from the draft.. With no ability to predict, how is anyone feeling sure that those 7 guys will materialize. And surface within the next 2 years.

 

[Stylizer1]

I watched Moneyball for the first time on the weekend. Maybe PD is the Yale kid

Or maybe he is Art?

 

[AchtzehnBaby]

Or maybe he is Art?

Definitely not.

 

[Matsens15]

I watched Moneyball for the first time on the weekend. Maybe PD is the Yale kid

That movie is really good and indeed you can see the same thing in your head but with Melnyk and Ottawa lol

 

[ReginKarlssonLehner]

Look where optimism got you's?

Was never convinced this team was run well since 2012.

No I agree, I wanted to blow this team up in summer of 2010. We had a really fast accelerated opportunity to do so but we didnt capitalize. 2012-2013 we had lucky rejuvenated retool but we didnt capitalize and made some pure dumb decisions.

 

[AchtzehnBaby]

No I agree, I wanted to blow this team up in summer of 2010. We had a really fast accelerated opportunity to do so but we didnt capitalize. 2012-2013 we had lucky rejuvenated retool but we didnt capitalize and made some pure dumb decisions.

Would you have cleared out the locker room?

 

[ijif]

how do you measure transition points???

Can you sit here and say any draftee will definitely be a good pro. Or any minor leaguer will end up a good pro.

3 legitimate NHL caliber top 6 forwards and top 4 D. 7 more are needed. All of whom must come from the draft.. With no ability to predict, how is anyone feeling sure that those 7 guys will materialize. And surface within the next 2 years.

There is a difference between not being able to say something with certainty and having no ability to predict.

 

[Dingle]

There is a difference between not being able to say something with certainty and having no ability to predict.

I hope so Analytic. Remember, we are the ones who have to pick up the pieces. If he is wrong...we lose.

 

[Countdown0]

I would suggest lifting your boycott of Yost for this click.

The stuff he is good at is numbers; and the part about the Sens making the cap floor is interesting.

Check out our summer shopping list here

2020 NHL Free Agents Tracker

Unfortunately, none of the particularly interesting names on this list will be coming here in all likelihood. We'll probably be keeping at least a few of our own UFAs though. I would imagine that Anderson is at least offered a contract for another two years. Boro most likely sticks around. Dorion probably tries to keep Hainsey as well, and given that he traded for Matthew Peca at the deadline, he probably get's a contract offer.

Some names from that list probably do get inflated offers from the Sens though, just in an attempt to hit the cap floor with over-payed 1 year deals. On its own, that's not a bad way of handling the finances during a rebuild.

All said and done though, by October we will have had a very boring off season, with perhaps (hopefully) an exciting draft to break up the monotony. Who knows, maybe we win the draft lottery and nab Lafrenière? ... let me dream...

 

[Cosmix]

Unfortunately, none of the particularly interesting names on this list will be coming here in all likelihood. We'll probably be keeping at least a few of our own UFAs though. I would imagine that Anderson is at least offered a contract for another two years. Boro most likely sticks around. Dorion probably tries to keep Hainsey as well, and given that he traded for Matthew Peca at the deadline, he probably get's a contract offer.

Some names from that list probably do get inflated offers from the Sens though, just in an attempt to hit the cap floor with over-payed 1 year deals. On its own, that's not a bad way of handling the finances during a rebuild.

All said and done though, by October we will have had a very boring off season, with perhaps (hopefully) an exciting draft to break up the monotony. Who knows, maybe we win the draft lottery and nab Lafrenière? ... let me dream...

I doubt that Anderson will get a contract offer from the Senators.

I agree that Borowiecki and Hainsey will get offers. Peca might depending on Dorion’s expectations for the Belleville prospects: Batherson, Norris, L. Brown, Balcers.

 

[AchtzehnBaby]

I doubt that Anderson will get a contract offer from the Senators.

I agree that Borowiecki and Hainsey will get offers. Peca might depending on Dorion’s expectations for the Belleville prospects: Batherson, Norris, L. Brown, Balcers.

I don't think Andy wants to play anymore. He most likely wants to spend time with his family.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

Yost is arrogant, smug and pompous. A pure numbers guy who for years completely turned a blind eye to actual evaluation of players and events and only focusing on numbers irregardless of the truth.

I'll pass on reading anything he writes.

He was convinced that Weircioch was good

 

[JungleBeat]

Was Yost a former member here or something? Why do so many people dislike him?

People are jealous.

 

[SensHulk]

I respect that he turned his writing and research into a gig with TSN but...count me in the group that doesn’t want to read or touch anything written by Yost.

 

[Masked]

People are jealous.

Jealous because they wish they could make money at something they're terrible at?