Salary Cap: Yohe! There's a Bombulie in the Molinari sauce! (Not da media thread.)

[IcedCapp]

All figures are cap numbers, not salaries.

Official 2015-16 salary ceiling: ........71,400,000
Projected 2015-16 cap spending: ....58,595,000
Projected offseason cap space: .......12,805,000



PITTSBURGH PENGUINS

Forward.................​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2015-16​

|

2016-17​

|

2017-18​

Evgeni Malkin|

C​

|

28​

|

9,500,000​

|

9,500,000​

|

9,500,000​

Sidney Crosby|

C​

|

27​

|

8,700,000​

|

8,700,000​

|

8,700,000​

Patric Hornqvist|

RW​

|

28​

|

4,250,000​

|

4,250,000​

|

4,250,000​

Chris Kunitz|

LW​

|

35​

|

3,850,000​

|

3,850,000​

|

UFA​

David Perron|

LW​

|

26​

|

3,812,500​

|

UFA​

Pascal Dupuis|

RW​

|

35​

|

3,750,000​

|

3,750,000​

|

UFA​

Brandon Sutter|

C​

|

26​

|

3,300,000​

|

UFA​

Nick Spaling|

LW​

|

26​

|

2,200,000​

|

UFA​

Defense.................​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2015-16​

|

2016-17​

|

.2017-18​

Kris Letang|

D​

|

27​

|

7,250,000​

|

7,250,000​

|

7,250,000​

Rob Scuderi|

D​

|

36​

|

3,375,000​

|

3,375,000​

|

UFA​

Ben Lovejoy|

D​

|

31​

|

1,100,000​

|

UFA​

Olli Maatta|

D​

|

20​

|

894,167​

|

RFA​

Derrick Pouliot|

D​

|

21​

|

863,333​

|

863,333​

|

RFA​

Goalie............,.......​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2015-16​

|

2016-17​

|

.2017-18​

Marc-Andre Fleury|

G​

|

30​

|

5,750,000​

|

5,750,000​

|

5,750,000​

WILKES-BARRE/SCRANTON PENGUINS

Forward...............​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2015-16​

|

2016-17​

|

2017-18​

Kasperi Kapanen|

RW​

|

18​

|

925,000​

|

925,000​

|

925,000​

Josh Archibald|

RW​

|

22​

|

659,167​

|

659,167​

|

RFA​

Scott Wilson|

LW​

|

22​

|

655,000​

|

RFA​

Bryan Rust|

RW​

|

22​

|

652,500​

|

RFA​

Anton Zlobin|

LW​

|

22​

|

608,333​

|

RFA​

Matia Marcantuoni|

C​

|

21​

|

608,333​

|

608,333​

|

RFA​

Jean-Sebastien Dea|

C​

|

21​

|

598,333​

|

598,333​

|

RFA​

Tom Kuhnhackl|

LW​

|

23​

|

575,000​

|

RFA​

Defense...............​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2015-16​

|

2016-17​

|

2017-18​

Niclas Andersen|

D​

|

27​

|

TBA​

|

UFA​

Harrison Ruopp|

D​

|

21​

|

650,833​

|

RFA​

Scott Harrington|

D​

|

21​

|

589,167​

|

RFA​

Goalie..................​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2015-16​

|

2016-17​

|

2017-18​

Tristan Jarry|

G​

|

19​

|

650,833​

|

650,833​

|

650,833​

Matt Murray|

G​

|

20​

|

620,000​

|

620,000​

|

RFA​

Jeff Zatkoff|

G​

|

27​

|

600,000​

|

UFA​

UNRESTRICTED FREE AGENTS

Player........................​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2014-15​

|

News and notes​

Paul Martin|

D​

|

33​

|

5,000,000​

|The rare fairly paid UFA last time around. Too pricey now

Christian Ehrhoff|

D​

|

32​

|

4,000,000​

|Will be happy to escape the voodoo curse on Pens' blueline

Daniel Winnik|

LW​

|

29​

|

1,300,000​

|Expected contract makes more sense for another team

Maxim Lapierre|

C​

|

29​

|

1,100,000​

|Won't be offered a new deal, per Renaud Lavoie

Steve Downie|

RW​

|

27​

|

1,000,000​

|Sparkplug or outright liability with the refs?

Thomas Greiss|

G​

|

29​

|

1,000,000​

|Sure to be moving on with rest of Pens' goalies thriving

Jayson Megna|

RW​

|

25​

|

874,125​

|Group 6 UFA who doesn't have much incentive to return

Blake Comeau|

LW​

|

29​

|

700,000​

|Wrist injury kept his stats -- and his pricetag -- down

Craig Adams|

RW​

|

37​

|

700,000​

|I believe the term is "seppuku" -- Look it up, Harvard Boy

Taylor Chorney|

D​

|

27​

|

550,000​

|Apparently under consideration to bring back to the big club

Andrew Ebbett|

C​

|

32​

|

550,000​

|Token 14th/15th forward likely to look for a better shot

Bobby Farnham|

LW​

|

26​

|

550,000​

|Group 6 UFA beloved for running into people and falling down

Nick Drazenovic|

C​

|

28​

|

550,000​

|Injuries may cost him some money on his next 2-way deal

Pierre-Luc Letourneau-Leblond|

RW​

|

29​

|

550,000​

|One of many casually discarded AHL goons

RESTRICTED FREE AGENTS

Player........................​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2014-15​

|

News and notes​

Beau Bennett|

RW​

|

23​

|

900,000​

|As likely to be traded as he is to be re-signed, it seems

Brian Dumoulin|

D​

|

23​

|

831,667​

|Pressure is on the front office to decide on his future

Ian Cole|

D​

|

26​

|

825,000​

|Imagine a trade deadline pickup that didn't embarrass

Adam Payerl|

RW​

|

24​

|

626,667​

|Doesn't bring much other than decent size

Nick D'Agostino|

D​

|

24​

|

625,000​

|Buried very, very deep on the depth chart at this point

Dominik Uher|

C​

|

22​

|

601,667​

|Has the makings of a serviceable fourth-liner

Tom Kuhnhackl|

LW​

|

23​

|

598,333​

| Re-signed with Penguins (1 year, $575k)

Reid McNeill|

D​

|

22​

|

575,000​

|Provides grit on an AHL blueline and not much more

Eric Hartzell|

G​

|

25​

|

550,000​

|Nice knowing you, kid

SIGNED PROSPECTS

Player​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

Current Team​

|

Contract​

Oskar Sundqvist|

C​

|

20​

|

SkellefteÃ¥ (SHL)​

|

3 years/708,333 per​

UNSIGNED PROSPECTS

Player​

​

​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

Current Team (League)​

Anthony Angello|

F​

|

18​

|Omaha (USHL)

Dane Birks|

D​

|

19​

|Michigan Tech (WCHA)

Teddy Blueger|

F​

|

20​

|Minnesota State (WCHA)

Blaine Byron|

F​

|

20​

|Maine (HEA)

Jake Guentzel|

F​

|

20​

|Nebraska-Omaha (NCHC)

Troy Josephs|

F​

|

20​

|Clarkson (ECAC)

Sam Lafferty|

F​

|

19​

|Brown (ECAC)

Jaden Lindo|

F​

|

19​

|Owen Sound (OHL)

Sean Maguire|

G​

|

22​

|Boston University (HEA)

Alexander Pechurskiy|

G​

|

24​

|Magnitogorsk (KHL)

Ryan Segalla|

D​

|

20​

|Connecticut (HEA)

Jeff Taylor|

D​

|

20​

|Union (ECAC)

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[WayneSid9987]

Impressive IC. Good to have you back.

 

[Sidney BrOSSby*]

Someone's going to get Russled.

 

[JackFr]

Anyone advocating giving up major assets for Sharp has to consider where this organization has put us by ponying up big for older players instead of paying big to get young permanent solutions.

Penguins give up:

2010 2nd
2011 3rd
2013 1st, 2013 2nd
2014 2nd, 2014 3rd, 2014 5th
2015 3rd, 2015 4th
2016 2nd
Joe Morrow (2011 1st)
Simon Despres (2009 1st)

Penguins get:

Jordan Leopold
Jarome Iginla
Brendan Morrow
Douglas Murray
Ben Lovejoy
Daniel Winnik
Marcel Goc
Lee Stempniak

 

[JackFr]

Also, people have to stop making rosters with Perron on the 3rd line. Either trade him or give him good minutes, there is absolutely no point sticking a 4 million dollar offensive winger on the 3rd line with Tikhonov or Sundqvist. No way the organization would ever do that, nor should they.

 

[penzweiser]

Anyone advocating giving up major assets for Sharp has to consider where this organization has put us by ponying up big for older players instead of paying big to get young permanent solutions.

Penguins give up:

2010 2nd,
2011 3rd,
2013 1st, 2013 2nd,
2014 2nd, 2014 3rd, 2014 5th
2015 3rd, 2015 4th
2016 2nd
Joe Morrow (2011 1st)
Simon Despres (2009 1st)

Penguins get:

Jordan Leopold
Jarome Iginla
Brendan Morrow
Douglas Murray
Ben Lovejoy
Daniel Winnik
Marcel Goc
Lee Stempniak

Wow is that depressing. Also goes to show how bad making deadline deals turns out for the future. Let's just trade the assets now and have a set line upup rathethan pay the deadline premium . No more deadline deals unless it is for someone that will help us for the next 4-5 years.

 

[IcedCapp]

Impressive IC. Good to have you back.

It's my only real talent

Anyone advocating giving up major assets for Sharp has to consider where this organization has put us by ponying up big for older players instead of paying big to get young permanent solutions.

Penguins give up:

2010 2nd,
2011 3rd,
2013 1st, 2013 2nd,
2014 2nd, 2014 3rd, 2014 5th
2015 3rd, 2015 4th
2016 2nd
Joe Morrow (2011 1st)
Simon Despres (2009 1st)

Penguins get:

Jordan Leopold
Jarome Iginla
Brendan Morrow
Douglas Murray
Ben Lovejoy
Daniel Winnik
Marcel Goc
Lee Stempniak

And Lovejoy is the only player on that list still around

Also, people have to stop making rosters with Perron on the 3rd line. Either trade him or give him good minutes, there is absolutely no point sticking a 4 million dollar offensive winger on the 3rd line with Tikhonov or Sundqvist. No way the organization would ever do that, nor should they.

Eh. I put him on the 3rd line, and it wasn't an insult. 2nd with Malkin, 3rd with Sundqvist, doesn't matter. Pens need depth, and I made a legit, reasonable, affordable lineup with him on the 3rd line.

I want him around, I think he's a good player, and I think he'll be a part of he solution, but 3rd line wasn't an insult or a commentary on his ability.

 

[JackFr]

As of now here's where I think the lineup stands, optimistically hoping that we get Tik and Plot:

XXXX - Crosby - Hornqvist
Perron - Malkin - Plotnikov
Dupuis - Tikhonov - Bennett
Spaling - Sundqvist - XXXX

Now, we're either going to get a RW for Malkin and end up with:

Perron - Crosby - Hornqvist
Plotnikov - Malkin - Kessel

or a LW for Crosby:

Sharp - Crosby - Hornqvist
Perron - Malkin - Plotnikov

Ideally Plotnikov is in the bottom six, and please no one jump on me tossing him on Malkin's wing. I just think that he doesn't need to be a bonafide top six talent to succeed there, and I think the Russian factor is going to make it very likely that he plays there.

 

[Ogrezilla]

I think I'm convinced I want Skinner and Frolik if Kessel isn't going to happen. Oshie would be next on my list.

 

[Zero Pucks]

I want to see Rust in the bottom 6 next season.

 

[Ogrezilla]

I want to see Rust in the bottom 6 next season.

I want one of him or Wilson. Bottom 6 will be crowded if we do sign both Plot and Tikh

 

[DoktorZaius]

As of now here's where I think the lineup stands, optimistically hoping that we get Tik and Plot:

XXXX - Crosby - Hornqvist
Perron - Malkin - Plotnikov
Dupuis - Tikhonov - Bennett
Spaling - Sundqvist - XXXX

Now, here's what I'd obviously like to see:

Perron - Crosby - Hornqvist
Plotnikov - Malkin - Kessel
Dupuis - Tikhonov - Bennett
Spaling - Sundqvist - XXXX

If Perron can't cut it with Sid, which I'm not convinced he can't, then either shop him at the deadline or package him for someone faster.

If we can get Comeau at a low hit again, he'd fit in nicely on the 4th line. Not sure how I'd deploy that forward lineup, but it'd be really nice.

 

[Sidney BrOSSby*]

Who gets Kunitz's 'A'?

Also.. What is the consensus concerning Sutter's return?

 

[penzweiser]

As of now here's where I think the lineup stands, optimistically hoping that we get Tik and Plot:

XXXX - Crosby - Hornqvist
Perron - Malkin - Plotnikov
Dupuis - Tikhonov - Bennett
Spaling - Sundqvist - XXXX

Now, here's what I'd obviously like to see:

Perron - Crosby - Hornqvist
Plotnikov - Malkin - Kessel
Dupuis - Tikhonov - Bennett
Spaling - Sundqvist - XXXX

If Perron can't cut it with Sid, which I'm not convinced he can't, then either shop him at the deadline or package him for someone faster.

Throw Wilson in there, he's ready for nhl minutes. I'd be content with that lineup though I'd like someone a little better at 3C, he's okay though. I'd be interested to see if we could get trocheck.

 

[penzweiser]

Who gets Kunitz's 'A'?

Also.. What is the consensus concerning Sutter's return?

I think Hornqvist has earned it, dupuis could be a consideration too.

 

[penzweiser]

Watch us get our 2nd back next year and JR throws Kessel money at Saad. I know it would be overpayment but i wouldn't be upset haha. Not with the other crap I'm worried he might pull.

 

[Waffle Fries]

Letang and Hornqvist should alternate the A the way Orpik and Kunitz used to.

 

[clefty]

Anyone advocating giving up major assets for Sharp has to consider where this organization has put us by ponying up big for older players instead of paying big to get young permanent solutions.

Penguins give up:

2010 2nd
2011 3rd
2013 1st, 2013 2nd
2014 2nd, 2014 3rd, 2014 5th
2015 3rd, 2015 4th
2016 2nd
Joe Morrow (2011 1st)
Simon Despres (2009 1st)

Penguins get:

Jordan Leopold
Jarome Iginla
Brendan Morrow
Douglas Murray
Ben Lovejoy
Daniel Winnik
Marcel Goc
Lee Stempniak

But we also gave up:

2008 1st
2008 2nd
2008 3rd
2009 3rd
Ryan Whitney
Noah Welch
Angelo Esposito
Colby Armstrong
Erik Christensen
Dan Carcillo


While getting:
Marian Hossa
Chris Kunitz
Pascal Dupuis
Hal Gill
Bill Guerin
Gary Roberts
Georges Laraque

A good trade is a good trade and a bad trade is a bad trade. There's nothing inherently wrong with trading futures for older, established talent and while I'm not necessarily saying Sharp is one of those players - it can work.

 

[SprootsMasterFlex]

Hmmm... all things considered, who would you rather target, Skinner or Oshie?

Part of me says Skinner because he has a higher ceiling, younger and signed to a longer term deal.
Part of me says Oshie since St Louis may be willing to take an aging Kunitz in the deal (unlike Carolina who's rebuilding), grittier, and not the same injury history as Skinner.

I'm torn... but would be happy with either.

 

[Ogrezilla]

Hmmm... all things considered, who would you rather target, Skinner or Oshie?

Part of me says Skinner because he has a higher ceiling, younger and signed to a longer term deal.
Part of me says Oshie since St Louis may be willing to take an aging Kunitz in the deal (unlike Carolina who's rebuilding), grittier, and not the same injury history as Skinner.

I'm torn... but would be happy with either.

All things equal I'd prefer Skinner, but it would depend on the cost of each.

 

[JackFr]

But we also gave up:

*trades*

A good trade is a good trade and a bad trade is a bad trade. There's nothing inherently wrong with trading futures for older, established talent and while I'm not necessarily saying Sharp is one of those players - it can work.

It's worth noting that all of that was before we won the cup, when we had a stockpile of prospects and had the luxury of adding that "last piece" for a run. More to the point, that all happened when Sid and Geno were 21-22 and we actually needed external "been there before" leadership in the locker room.

At this point Sid and Malkin are our leadership.

Not to mention, on top of all that, that here are the ages of those guys when they were acquired.

Hossa (29)
Kunitz (29)
Dupuis (28)
Gill (32)
Guerin (38)
Roberts (40)
Laraque (30)

The only ones we gave up big pieces for (other than Noah Welch arguably) were actually not old at all, in fact they were young enough to be longterm pieces. Worth pointing out that Phil Kessel will be 28 when the season starts, placing him right where Hossa, Kunitz, and Dupuis were. Patrick Sharp, on the other hand, will be 34 in December.

 

[JackFr]

Hmmm... all things considered, who would you rather target, Skinner or Oshie?

Part of me says Skinner because he has a higher ceiling, younger and signed to a longer term deal.
Part of me says Oshie since St Louis may be willing to take an aging Kunitz in the deal (unlike Carolina who's rebuilding), grittier, and not the same injury history as Skinner.

I'm torn... but would be happy with either.

People are offering packages like Myers + Lemieux for Skinner, so I'm nervous about that. On the other hand, I think Oshie's lack of speed makes him a less than ideal target.

I think Boedker and Kessel are the all-in guys you go for, although I know some people are less convinced about Boedker than I am.

 

[JWells16]

Hmmm... all things considered, who would you rather target, Skinner or Oshie?

Part of me says Skinner because he has a higher ceiling, younger and signed to a longer term deal.
Part of me says Oshie since St Louis may be willing to take an aging Kunitz in the deal (unlike Carolina who's rebuilding), grittier, and not the same injury history as Skinner.

I'm torn... but would be happy with either.

Living 2 miles from PNC Arena in Raleigh, I get to watch Skinner a fair amount. I want no part of him. He's so small that it's crazy. He looks like a high school kid out there. This wouldn't be a huge problem if he had great awareness, but he doesn't. He gets crushed once per game.

We have enough trouble staying healthy. Let's not add another injury prone player, please.

 

[mpp9]

Hmmm... all things considered, who would you rather target, Skinner or Oshie?

Part of me says Skinner because he has a higher ceiling, younger and signed to a longer term deal.
Part of me says Oshie since St Louis may be willing to take an aging Kunitz in the deal (unlike Carolina who's rebuilding), grittier, and not the same injury history as Skinner.

I'm torn... but would be happy with either.

I'd take Oshie if it means we keep Kapanen, DP and our 1st. Skinner costs you at least two of those things.

I have no idea what a deal would look like for Oshie though. I don't see why they'd want Kunitz. Depth isn't their problem. We don't have a spare impact forward, which is what they need. Hopefully they end up selling him off for a package similar to Perron a couple years ago.

 

[SprootsMasterFlex]

People are offering packages like Myers + Lemieux for Skinner, so I'm nervous about that. On the other hand, I think Oshie's lack of speed makes him a less than ideal target.

I think Boedker and Kessel are the all-in guys you go for, although I know some people are less convinced about Boedker than I am.

I completely forgot about Boedker.

Oshie and Skinner look like the type of players that would thrive next to Sid. Not sure about Malkin though I'd imagine that Oshie's gritter defense-first mentality would suite him better.

As for GMJR, I would imagine that he has a sentimental attachment towards Skinner given their history together. I would imagine that Carolina would want Kapanen in the deal especially since his dad was drafted by Hartford and they're rebuilding. Personally, I'd offer Kapanen & Bennett. Should be enough since Skinner is being sold Low considering hthe injury concerns and his underwhelming season last year.