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id rather have Gourde than Miller, considering how good Gourde is defensively and how he can carry his own line when he has to.
Player Discussion: Yanni Gourde
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I think everyone would prefer Gourde over Miller, if only because Gourde's style is a breath of fresh air to a team that often gets caught trying to will their finesse game to work.
Then we have to wonder if we're still going to be involved in the EK sweepstakes, which could mean losing both of them. But, as of right now, with the way our D is performing, we might well take a hard pass on that. Probably depends on what happens in the playoffs. We definitely need Gourde to show up there this time, if we're going to give him a big contract. Keep in mind, he's gonna be UFA, not RFA, so the money would probably be in the Miller ballpark, if he repeats last season. I think it'll be closer to 50 points, because he's gonna spend a little bit of time on the 3rd line, sooner or later.
Then we have to wonder if we're still going to be involved in the EK sweepstakes, which could mean losing both of them. But, as of right now, with the way our D is performing, we might well take a hard pass on that. Probably depends on what happens in the playoffs. We definitely need Gourde to show up there this time, if we're going to give him a big contract. Keep in mind, he's gonna be UFA, not RFA, so the money would probably be in the Miller ballpark, if he repeats last season. I think it'll be closer to 50 points, because he's gonna spend a little bit of time on the 3rd line, sooner or later.
We could trade Miller, before the NTC kicks in, and offer Gourde something more/less identical.
Miller's contract has already kick in. It's the NTC that hasn't kicked in. And, to be fair, this is the Post Yzerman Era.
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I keep forgetting Yzerman is not our GM.
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What kind of return do you picture for miller? Signed long term and should put up good points this year if he ever gets off the fourth line.
The equivalent of a low first?
If we have to move him, taking back a roster player would likely defeat the purpose, without some creativity. And, with that, you never really know what JB might have up his sleeve. It'll take a couple of years for us to get a feel for him, I think, even if he's similar to Yzerman.
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Miller absolutely has value as a skilled winger who can line up with anyone 1st line center, he's signed through his entire prime too. I'd still go with my intiial idea of using him to get Panarin or another strong rental for a playoff run just because we can't take anything back for term. I doubt any team can match a player like Miller and they can mitigate their loss of a skilled winger with another one signed for term.
But if Miller starts to light it up chances are we're keeping him, Tampa has already missed pulling the trigger twice on Killorn/Johnson in the exact same scenario.
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Yeah we should definitely NOT let Gourde walk, there's too many things about his game that's an asset. He's an elite PKer, relentless forechecker and has front net presence. Attach whatever we have to to move Callahan, Killorn or even Palat to re-sign him, just make it happen.
Don't care if Callahan only has 1 year left no asset will replace Gourde's skillset right now.
Don't care if Callahan only has 1 year left no asset will replace Gourde's skillset right now.
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Agree. Gourde's too good to let walk. Every line he's on just f***ing works.
I can't remember who said it? Something to the effect of - if you add the distance from the net for all of Gourde's goals, you probably don't get to the blueline. The dude will stand in there and take some f***ing punishment to score.
And he's pretty much our only guy who does that with consistency.
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This is pure priceless Yanni mic'd up GOLD!!
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Gourde: "Sorry for that pass, Kuch!"
Kuch: "..." [stoneface]
Ouch, Kuch doesn't even pay attention to him.
Also, Yanni sounds like he's a HFBoards regular when he's commenting the powerplay: "Shoot! Shoot!", "Good, they're shooting!"
Kuch: "..." [stoneface]
Ouch, Kuch doesn't even pay attention to him.
Also, Yanni sounds like he's a HFBoards regular when he's commenting the powerplay: "Shoot! Shoot!", "Good, they're shooting!"
I think the lack of mics on players around him often made it seem like Gourde was a puppy yapping at everybody and getting no response.
It's kind of funny that his real life personality matches his play-style exactly though.
Reminds me of my students. High energy, high motor, and I love the positivity. You need that kind of infectious tenacity in your forwards. Very glad he isn't a defenseman though
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BTW I can see why so many other teams want to beat his ass. "Excuse me sir, are you okay?"
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