Confirmed Signing with Link: [WSH] Capitals sign Pheonix Copley to extension (3 years, $1.1M AAV)

[YP44]

Seems liek a good deal.
Where does this leave Samsonov and Vanecek?

 

[Skrudland2Lomakin]

Seems liek a good deal.
Where does this leave Samsonov and Vanecek?

It leaves Samsonov in good position to develop in the AHL with no pressure to reach an NHL roster until ready. Vanecek is a little bit more unclear. He's having a fantastic year in the AHL (.277 GA, .907 S%, AHL All Star) and he's paid his dues by serving time in both the ECHL and AHL. He has never received an NHL call up so it's difficult to predict his ceiling (my gut says higher than Copley). It becomes more difficult for him to get that shot though now as I'm assuming Copley's deal is 1 way.

The clear reasoning behind this is it's a contract to expose for Seattle, I wonder if the plan is to essentially hold the contract until the expansion draft, and then from there either hope it's taken or trade it and slot Vanecek/Sasmonov into his slot.

 

[ijuka]

Similar experience and performance this year while being younger... Copley gets 1.1mil, Koskinen 4.5.

 

[AvsFanInMichigan]

He’ll end up on the Avs at some point.

 

[ThreeOfAPerfectPair]

Thought he was getting koskinen money for a second.

Don't think so bud, Koskinen has 10 more career NHL games. Market prices dictate that's a significant premium a team needs to pay.

 

[Papa Francouz]

Decent cap hit for the Avs’ future starter.

 

[ViktorBaeArvidsson]

Cool, dude is from my hometown North Pole, Alaska. Glad to see that he’ll be sticking around.

 

[Hivemind]

I don't know this kid's parents, but I'd hazard a guess that they just spelled "Phoenix" wrong on the birth certificate.

Like naming your kid "Micheal" instead of "Michael".

Or "Daved" instead of "David"

No, they did it on purpose because they didn't like the traditional spelling
GOALTENDER PHEONIX COPLEY: MAN OF STEELY DETERMINATION - Chicago Wolves

When she was pregnant with Pheonix, one of her friend’s children visited their home and cracked open a book on Greek mythology. Mary and Peter loved the name Phoenix and the description of the mythical bird that radiated rays of pure sunlight. Peter, though, didn’t love its spelling.
“When I was young, I was taught, ‘When two vowels go walking, the first one does the talking,’ ” Peter said. “Pheonix made more sense to me.”

 

[Dr Pepper]

^I'd love to know how he pronounces the word "bear", if that's the phonetic credo he chooses to live by.

 

[Hivemind]

^I'd love to know how he pronounces the word "bear", if that's the phonetic credo he chooses to live by.

 

[Fixed to Ruin]

Not bad for someone from the North Pole.

 

[izzy]

st louis blues legend

 

[mouser]

^I'd love to know how he pronounces the word "bear", if that's the phonetic credo he chooses to live by.

We call it the phenotic crode here.

 

[AlexBrovechkin8]

Maybe the Blues want to give us back Sanford too?

 

[Stupendous Yappi]

This is a good comparable for Jordan Binnington. I'm happy for Pheonix. Hopefully he can carve out a real NHL career out of this, but if not...a 3.3M payday isn't a bad way to 'fail'.

 

[Hivemind]

Maybe the Blues want to give us back Sanford too?

Ehh. I'll keep Jaskin over Sanford

 

[AlexBrovechkin8]

Ehh. I'll keep Jaskin over Sanford

Agreed, though it would be nice if the Caps played Jaskin more.

 

[Silky mitts]

The clear reasoning behind this is it's a contract to expose for Seattle, I wonder if the plan is to essentially hold the contract until the expansion draft, and then from there either hope it's taken or trade it and slot Vanecek/Sasmonov into his slot.

Seattle would be able to take Vanecek or Samsonov in the expansion draft if they were unprotected

 

[McDrailers]

This just proves the oilers are a tire fire. 4 million dollars. Absolutely insane to everyone not working at rexal.

 

[Skrudland2Lomakin]

Seattle would be able to take Vanecek or Samsonov in the expansion draft if they were unprotected

Won't Samsonov likely still be on his ELC and thusly ineligible?

Vanecek's current contract runs out after this season, my (admittedly rudimentary) assumption would then be that Washington follows his current deal up with a 2 year RFA deal that expires at the time of the draft. Washington retains his rights, but no contract is on the books. If you have a contract like Copley's you can package a deal where you trade him to Seattle and incentivize them to take a larger contract like Oshie's.



No part of me believes the Capitals are sitting back like last draft and hoping they don't lose a guy they want. They're going to make moves.

 

[Silky mitts]

Won't Samsonov likely still be on his ELC and thusly ineligible?

Vanecek's current contract runs out after this season, my (admittedly rudimentary) assumption would then be that Washington follows his current deal up with a 2 year RFA deal that expires at the time of the draft. Washington retains his rights, but no contract is on the books. If you have a contract like Copley's you can package a deal where you trade him to Seattle and incentivize them to take a larger contract like Oshie's.



No part of me believes the Capitals are sitting back like last draft and hoping they don't lose a guy they want. They're going to make moves.

Samsonov's ELC will have just run out. If they decide to let Holtby's contract run out and go with/protect Samsonov they still have to have an NHL goalie available for Seattle so Copley's deal would still help in that regard.

 

[RedHot]

No, they did it on purpose because they didn't like the traditional spelling
GOALTENDER PHEONIX COPLEY: MAN OF STEELY DETERMINATION - Chicago Wolves

Who the heck taught this guy English?

 

[Skrudland2Lomakin]

Samsonov's ELC will have just run out. If they decide to let Holtby's contract run out and go with/protect Samsonov they still have to have an NHL goalie available for Seattle so Copley's deal would still help in that regard.

Point being it gives them another asset to package to protect coveted players.

 

[Dr Pepper]

Who the heck taught this guy English?

I know, right? I mean, if you're going to change the spelling based on how you THINK it should be spelled, why even have the O in there at all?

Phenix, or even Fenix if he wanted to double down on the phonetics, would've been better than Pheonix.

But I've talked enough about this kid's misspelled name for one day.

 

[KevinRedkey]

He has a cool name, so good for him! lol