Sportsnet: Would you trade 3 & 5 for 1st OA?
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Fandlauer
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I would. In terms of marketing and excitement getting Lafreniere would have been massively valuable to this market. God knows we could have used the boost.
AchtzehnBaby
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Agent Zub
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Hell no.
Lafrenierre is the best player right now but I don't think it will always remain that way.
Lafrenierre is the best player right now but I don't think it will always remain that way.
Agent Zub
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This is the most coherent I've ever heard Dorion speak. Maybe those rookie GM jitters are finally gone.
DrunkUncleDenis
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I was going to say the same thing. Handled himself reasonably well.
Speatleysson
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Exactly this. Lafreniere isn't a generational talent like crosby or mckinnon or even Matthews.
Byfield is a year younger, plays against tougher competition in the Ohl, and has an overaged kid from Israel on his wing.
5 years from now, the placeholder team could easily be saying.. **** we should have taken so and so, but hindsight is 20/20.
Let's power forward with our 2 top-5 picks. At worst we take the best dman in the draft and a number one center
Cat Herder
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why do both Friedman and Marek look like they are being held hostage somewhere lol
dumbdick
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There's some very nice stuff in this interview. Here's what I gathered from this:
BPA: "You take the player most likely to help you win in a span of 3-7 years". I'm not sure if you read into that for timing of Pierre's strategy.
Trading: "I would be very surprised if we moved out of 3 and 5".
Special Player: When asked about trading out of those spots, he could have taken it to mean "trade up", "trade down" or trade for "other assets". He went immediately into how deep the draft was and how it would have to be a very "special player" coming back. The choice of the word "player" there instead of "package" or "return" speaks volumes.
Pierre's Tiers:
1....2-3....4-12....12-18/20
I'm surprised by the 4-12 tier. That goes a lot deeper than I would have expected. Assuming 2/3 is Byfield and Stutzle, that means that he's putting guys like Raymond and Drysdale in the same tier as guys like Sanderson/Quinn. Here's what I take from this.
Trading down 5: If he really believes that there isn't that much separation between 4 and 12, I think that opens the door for a deal like (5 + 33) from Ottawa for (10 + 17) coming back from Jersey. Of course, he also said he'd be very surprised if he traded 3 or 5 like 10 seconds earlier.
Trading up the Isles Pick: Likewise, that Islanders pick could end up sitting right on the edge of his 4th tier. Don't be surprised if we trade up that Islanders pick. Again, we might target that 2nd NJD pick if it's there.
BPA: "You take the player most likely to help you win in a span of 3-7 years". I'm not sure if you read into that for timing of Pierre's strategy.
Trading: "I would be very surprised if we moved out of 3 and 5".
Special Player: When asked about trading out of those spots, he could have taken it to mean "trade up", "trade down" or trade for "other assets". He went immediately into how deep the draft was and how it would have to be a very "special player" coming back. The choice of the word "player" there instead of "package" or "return" speaks volumes.
Pierre's Tiers:
1....2-3....4-12....12-18/20
I'm surprised by the 4-12 tier. That goes a lot deeper than I would have expected. Assuming 2/3 is Byfield and Stutzle, that means that he's putting guys like Raymond and Drysdale in the same tier as guys like Sanderson/Quinn. Here's what I take from this.
Trading down 5: If he really believes that there isn't that much separation between 4 and 12, I think that opens the door for a deal like (5 + 33) from Ottawa for (10 + 17) coming back from Jersey. Of course, he also said he'd be very surprised if he traded 3 or 5 like 10 seconds earlier.
Trading up the Isles Pick: Likewise, that Islanders pick could end up sitting right on the edge of his 4th tier. Don't be surprised if we trade up that Islanders pick. Again, we might target that 2nd NJD pick if it's there.
Laphroaig
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There is no justification for trading #3 and #5 for Lafreniere. The rest of the top five is just too strong. I wouldn't do it unless there's a Crosby or McDavid level player available. Lafreniere isn't that.
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We need so much help all over the roster.....I really want Laf, but if we draft the right players, 2 really strong core pieces is better than one, even if the one is the best in this draft class.
Sensinitis
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We need 2 great players, not just one really great player. I'd keep our picks unless something was offered that was impossible to turn down.
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Lafrenniere is a surefire superstar in this draft class - but he is not Crosby/McDavid/MacKinnon. No way I would trade a Malkin/Patrick Kane type high-ceiling guys in Byf/Stu AND the chance at adding another 1st liner/top-D to get Laf. The Laf boat has sailed for me - the balls fell where they did and now it's magic time for the Sens scouting department. There is potential to come up with multiple NHL players in the top-50 of this year's draft.
