Would you take Lucic on your team for free?

[Sam Spade]

 

[Kamiccolo]

Is this thread serious? People saying no for free? Hell yes I take him for free. He can be the extra forward and draw in for heavy teams on the 4th line, fight, add some toughness. And saves 700k on the cap for that detph forward on the roster.

 

[UK Canuck]

in place of Loui Eriksson yes

 

[Darkwinter]

Oh man is Cassie a** kisser Campbell going to be mad at HF board .

 

[CanadianPensFan1]

Not unless there was 99.9% retention.

Or he came with Gio.

Since neither of those are likely to happen ... no, just no.

 

[Aceboogie]

Is this thread serious? People saying no for free? Hell yes I take him for free. He can be the extra forward and draw in for heavy teams on the 4th line, fight, add some toughness. And saves 700k on the cap for that detph forward on the roster.

Except after game 30 when he stops fighting or hitting and whines about not being in the top 6

The Oilers are paying for Lucic to NOT be on their team, and it's the best money ever spent

Give me an AHL goon all day

 

[Cyclones Rock]

Lucic is not even AHL caliber any more. In the absence of his huge contract, I'd guess he'd have retired after last season.

 

[tmlfan98]

Maybe the Sens?

 

[BenchBrawl]

He used to be so efficient. Too bad, steep decline.

 

[Mc5RingsAndABeer]

How's about the last 3 seasons before this one?

Oilers with Lucic: 51.10% CF, 50.53% xGF
Oilers with Lucic on the bench: 49.03% CF, 49.66% xGF

That's a 243 game sample where his NHL team controls a larger share of shots and expected goals with him on the ice. With this season, now it's 267. Is that good enough for you?

Do you have a breakdown of his teammates? If McDavid happens to go to the bench when Lucic goes to the bench then that might explain it.

 

[General Disarray]

If he's free then any smart business man would take him. It doesn't have to be to play hockey. He could be a bus driver or trainer.

 

[Chiarelli]

League min on 4th line/press box for one year sure

 

[Mc5RingsAndABeer]

Over that same 3-year sample that you quoted:

Oilers with Lucic on the ice, and with McDavid and Draisaitl on the bench: 50.46% CF, 49.67% xGF, 51.43% GF
Oilers with Lucic, McDavid and Draisaitl on the bench: 47.71% CF, 46.25% xGF, 42.81% GF

Doesn't seem like that had much of anything to do with it.

Do you have it for Lucic with McDavid, with Draisaitl, and with both? And is that just ES?

I like advanced stats but there has to be some assumption that is violated.

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

League min on 4th line/press box for one year sure

Pete? Is that you???

 

[Puckluck13]

He has been really good as a 3rd/4th liner.

It's obvious people still remember the Edmonton lucic.

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

Every team should have some hungry young bruiser in their minor league system somewhere. I think you just call that guy up if that's an element you are looking for in the lineup. $0 cap hit is not a real thing. But at equivalent league minimum give your own guy a chance. (I'm not sure how many teams would even be looking for that element, though - everybody has 10 more skilled players in the AHL as well).

 

[Whiston532]

Hypothetically if he wasn’t getting paid she was in a bubble where there was no expectations sure I’d take him as a 4th liner/13th forward.

 

[TomasHertlsRooster]

Do you have it for Lucic with McDavid, with Draisaitl, and with both? And is that just ES?

I like advanced stats but there has to be some assumption that is violated.

Everything I posted in this thread is just 5-on-5. You can look at all of the information here and look at Lucic with other teammates:

Line Stats - Natural Stat Trick

I’m not sure what you mean by assumptions being violated.

Do you have a breakdown of his teammates? If McDavid happens to go to the bench when Lucic goes to the bench then that might explain it.

This only allows us to look at one teammate at a time and doesn’t exclude any other teammates:

Milan Lucic - Teammates - On Ice - Natural Stat Trick

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

Premiere power forward in his prime, who wouldn't want him?

 

[ViewsFromThe6ix]

as a fourth liner sure.

 

[LOFIN]

I don't see any use for him, not in Colorado nor the Rangers. He's basically a 4th line enforcer right now from what I can see, and these teams already have players filling in for that role.

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

Advanced stats has convinced you that Lucic is a decent player. It’s the ultimate proof that it’s bull****.

The problem here is you formed an opinion that Lucic sucks, and rather than allowing your opinion to change and evolve in the face of new evidence, you're holding your ground and insisting that any new information must be wrong. It doesn't really work that way

 

[PaPaDee]

I’m not sure how he’s been doing this year, but last year he was so bad he wasn’t even worth having on the 4th line.

 

[a mangy Meowth]

No. We play a speed game. That would be very bad.

 

[Melkor]

I would and put him on my 1st line on a daily basis just for this kind of threads with never ending competition in who is more witty at taking shit on Lucic.