Would you like to see the coaches challenge expanded to penalties?

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  1. rocketdan9 Registered User

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    They allow almost anything to be challenged at the NBA.

    Do you want to see NHL coaches challenge expanded to penalty calls?

    Coaches would still only have one challenge to use for offside/goal review and now penalty. *For an unsuccessful penalty challenge it becomes a 4 minute 5 on 4 PP and not 5 on 3.

    Here is another interesting twist. If the penalty was due to a dive or faking. The opposing team would be penalized instead

    I know there will be pushback that this may delay the game even further. But having this option forces the ref to be more alert. Also take out bad penalty calls when someone trips on their own etc.

    Yes or not to expansion?
     
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    No, no more expanding coaches challenges. And stop making offside reviewable.
     
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    How are you going to conclusively define a dive, though? I see embellishment calls that don't seem like embellishment at all. How do you prove intent?
     
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    Eye test via refs/hq. I mean they call dives now if its blatant

    Lets say a small cross check causes an opposing player to dive forward to draw a penalty. For example
     
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    Cmon. Refs need to be on alert

    Their "makeup" penalty system is bs sometimes
     
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    Sure so long as you don't change the following:

    - Limit of 1 rule per game
    - If you lose the challenge, your team gets a penalty instead
     
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    They call "dives" that aren't blatant. A hip check knocks you to the ice and they call the interference and a dive. That's my point. And they never call a dive unless they reward it by calling the "offender" the diver is trying to burn.

    The whole rule is idiotic.
     
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    It already takes them too long to figure out if a player was offside or a goal was knocked in over the crossbar. I don't want to sit around for 10 minutes while they scrutinize a hold in slow motion from 15 angles.
     
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    No. More things to slow the game down.
     
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    Definitely not.
     
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    This is the correct answer. One challenge aside wouldn’t slow the game down significantly, and increases the quality since dumb calls wouldn’t decide them (well, as often...).
     
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    It's not difficult to lose your balance when on skates. A little crosscheck in the right spot at the right time will absolutely do it but will still appear unlikely to have caused such a reaction.
     
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    I'd be on board with it for a very limited scope of what is reviewable - say a high sticking call if it was a team member and not an opponent that did the high sticking. I can't think of many other calls that should be included - I don't want to waste time arguing what you thought should or shouldn't be a trip or a hook, etc.
    I like the idea of back to back minors rather than a 5 on 3 for unsuccessful challenge but you would have to come up with something for the end of the game with less than 4 minutes to go.
     
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    Again it would have to be blatant

    Dive situations though will be more rare. Because it would have to be drastic

    Situation where a player loses their balance or trips on their own skates but a penalty is called will the ones most targeted. Those definitely should not be called penalties
     
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    Get rid of challenges altogether
     
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    High stick, trip, hook, and interference all should apply IMO- any call that involves one player inhibiting another’s involvement in the play. The basis of the challenge would then be what you describe- did the penalized player really commit the act, or did the opposing team’s player do it on their own/have it done to them by a teammate?

    There are trips called all the time where a player fell on their own, hooks where they grab their opponent’s stick, and high sticks that are friendly fire. A challenge is meant to reverse those cases where the official obviously got it wrong and so the same standard for goalie interference (“is there enough evidence to overturn the call on the ice?”) would apply.
     
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    True. That is looking way far ahead. Good one
     
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    No way man. The goal reviews are crucial sometimes

    The offsides I would get rid of 1st before penalty challenge. It can happen 5 minute before a goal is scored. Which is too many mins elapse
     
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    No thanks. The Avs have already had a game 7 tying goal disallowed for "offsides" on a review, despite every camera angle showing Landeskog's left skate was clearly on the blueline. No reason to give the league more chances to arbitrarily decide games.
     
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    I think they should give each coach a single challenge and if they lose it, they lose it.

    The penalty afterwards is just f***ing stupid beyond words.
     
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    Give this man a medal.
     
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    True. Just burns a timeout should be the post challenge effect
     
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    So you are good with someone tripping on their own skates and penalty called on an Avs player ......tie game with 5 mins left in the 3rd?
     

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