Would you extend Nyquist?

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What to do with Nyquist?

Poll closed Sep 26, 2018.
  1. Let him walk as UFA.

    1.0%
  2. Sign him on extension already.

    4.1%
  3. Trade him and never sign him back. Save the cap space for other contracts.

    75.5%
  4. Trade him and try to sign him back as UFA for 5.75M

    19.4%
  1. Henkka

    Henkka Registered User

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    Data from this season from Evolving-Hockey

    Nyquist looks pretty good in here.

    Asking a 1st should be a no-brainer.
     
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  2. Konnan511

    Konnan511 Play Pals

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    I don't understand why people want our second best player gone who is also in the middle of his prime. In three years, he's the type of player we'll need when we are contending.
     
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  3. Rzombo4 prez

    Rzombo4 prez Registered User

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    Contending for what? A playoff spot? I do not expect Gus to be a particularly good and effective hockey player three years from now.
     
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  4. Henkka

    Henkka Registered User

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    Why?

    Power-forwards and physical players tend to regress at 32-year of age.

    What kind of player is Gustav Nyquist? - THE EXACT OPPOSITE.

    Playmakers, smaller guys and good skaters age on a best possible way. <--- Nyquist is that kind of player.

    Nyquist is 29 years old. Signing him to 4-5 year deal pushes him to 34-35 year old on last year.

    This is not ****ing Franzen or Zetterberg deal where he would be 40 on the end of the contract.
     
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  5. lhsgolf19

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    People want to sign him to an extension fine but still he MUST be traded at the deadline, just in case he isn’t getting that deal or doesn’t want to sign... I personally think he is our #1 guy that needs to be traded within a month
     
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    At this point in the rebuild, it is crazy to pass up late 1st round pick.
     
  7. Ricelund

    Ricelund We like our team.

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    I'd definitely try to trade him at the deadline. I won't be upset if they end up bringing him back.
     
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    His style of play ages well.
     
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    Big Poppa Puck HF's Villain

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    I've always been a Nyquist guy and won't lose sleep if he's on the team next year (depending on cap hit+term of course) but the smart thing to do is trade him. Then you re-evaluate whether you want to sign him as UFA in July.
     
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    Trade him. He's had a steady decline prior to his contract year. Happens all the time. My bet is he gets 6 mil+ per year off this year and returns to his typical 40-45 pts in 82 next year, and even worse after that.

    Get a 1st at the deadline and wish him all the best. Let someone else give him the dumb deal this summer
     
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    If he was a better, more technically efficient skater I would tend to agree with you. I don't think he will age nearly as well as people are hoping he will.
     
  12. TheMule93

    TheMule93 On a mule rides the swindler

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    I remember last year mentioning how well Nyquist was playing all season despite the production not really being any different, thought it was best season since 13-14

    im glad his production has jumped to match his (now even more) elevated play
     
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    Nyquist is very good skater imo.

    He may not be as fast as he once was but he has tremendous agility.
     
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    I strongly believe Nyquist will have at least two to three maybe four more years of 50-60p seasons still.

    I think he’s just now starting to become that player we wanted. Especially now that he’s getting top line minutes with Larkin.
     
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    At this point, I'm fine with either trading or extending Nyquist.

    However, if they don't trade him, I would hope that it's because they have a pretty clear indication that he wants to come back and for a reasonable contract. If it's just a hope that he's going to do that and he ends up going elsewhere or they steeply overpay or give him over 4 years, it's going to look pretty bad.
     
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    You don't pay a winger a big contract if he's not going to score goals. He's racking up assists but he's lost his scoring touch. Move him for an asset. He's not getting any younger either.
     
  17. Run the Jewels

    Run the Jewels Lose for Hughes!

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    If you truly believe he's as good as the majority of the guys on that list he should be traded for a good offensive defenseman in his prime. Does anyone honestly think he'd bring that sort of return?

    Me neither.
     
  18. Number1RedWingsFan52

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    No thanks, Dealing Gus makes the most sense right now. While yes he's piling up the assists his goal scoring needs a lot to be desired. And you don't give big money out if they can't score any more. Gus best season was 27 goals 27 assists for 54 points. While yes he did lead the team in assists his lack of goal scoring concerns me a lot. To want to give him a big deal. Doubt he takes any thing less then 6 years $33 million. He's just not worth it to a rebuilding team.
     
  19. Hammettf2b

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    Trade him and never look back. Start using the cap on studs.
     
  20. kook10

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    Sell high. He doesn't have a letter on his sweater for a reason.
     
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    It looks impressive, but how exactly is Rantanen at the bottom of the list?
     
  22. Henkka

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    I think those bars are vs. ice-time based. Points/min etc. Rantanen logs huge minutes vs. other 1st liners, and that could do a negative favor for you on this data. I did raise the bar very high like putting the ice-time level really high, so there's no 9 minute flukes on the group. Only best 1st liners.

    And maybe his scoring is somehow inflated. I remember Rantanen doing multiple empty-netters and assisting many empty-netters. Still a TOP30 player if you got your name on the list.
     
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    I would bring him back.
     
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    Trade him. If you want back on the team next season, then bring him back July 1st.
     
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    Trade by TDL regardless. July 1st: $4.9M MAX & 3yrs or nothing. If Gus accepted that deal I'd include a 10 team NTC the 1st 2 years.
     
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