Discussion in 'National Hockey League Talk' started by NHLpls, Jul 30, 2019.
As successful as you can call a franchise that has not won a cup yet.
All it takes is winning once and it goes away for the most part. I remember all the hilarious ways the caps snatched defeat from the jaws of victory but the 1 win is better
Great, doesn't relate directly to the question at hand.
If you think achieving your goal is the only marker if success, idk what to tell you. Enjoy a disappointing future
I'm no one's dad but that doesn't mean I can't make points in a discussion. Sorry if that irks you for some childish reason. 57,000 posts on an internet forum over 13 years as if that's wrong for some reason is really only a reflection of you and your poor arguing skills.
And enjoy not being driven to succeed in everything that you do. I've done quite well, but thanks for the "advice". Good luck being successful when others are champions.
From a hockey sense, no. It doesn't matter if you don't win the Cup.
From a financial standpoint, absolutely.
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Of course the Sharks are a successful franchise.
They have been filling their arena over 95% for years and they are a very good committed fan base and this is coming from a fan of their biggest rival.
They have all 4 major sports in their area with some very historical and successful teams and they have carved their niche
Ignore the haters Shark fans. You are legit.
I look forward to our franchises' next dance off
So using your argument, The Leafs are an unsuccesful franchise since 1967?
I guess that we should totally ignore that they make the league the most money and are the hardest tickets to get in the league and the decades of sellouts?
Not winning a cup doesn't make a franchise a failure or not successful
Your logic + boasting on message boards = real success. You're an inspiration, champ
Unquestionably. They are a model franchise.
San Jose and Nashville are the blueprint as far as building consistent contenders but at the same time, neither has won anything. I guess it depends on what you define as "success". The Sharks have drafted well, traded well and are well managed but still haven't won. Its baffling TBH. They've had teams good enough to win the cup for a long time. Parity is real in the NHL.
Only 13 teams have won a cup in the last 20 years. Does that mean the other 18 teams in the league are unsuccessful? A cup is the ultimate barometer of success, but it's not the ONLY barometer of success.
The point of any competition is to win. No one dreams of a silver medal.
Yes, absolutely. The Sharks are a model franchise and have been for nearly 20 years. If the Leafs don’t win, I’ll always cheer for the Sharks. They have done everything the right way and are always contenders.
Some of The most Lucrative franchises in the league haven’t won a cup or haven’t won in many years. Teams like Philly and Toronto haven’t won in 30+ years. The Rangers and Montreal haven’t in 20+, while Vancouver hasn’t won anything. Your going to say the teams these teams aren’t success despite the numbers and revenue clearly showing otherwise?
The Curse of the Cow Palace.
So you are saying that the sprinter who got second to Usain Bolt was unsuccessful...? Interesting take
Yes. What is so hard to understand? You're either first or you're last.
They are successful at building a playoff contender year in and year out.
They aren’t successful at the ultimate goal of winning a Stanley Cup.
Because it makes no sense, when you start a race you are not guaranteed anything, so winning something is successful. Just because you lost to the best doesnt make you the worst
What is the definition of success? The Islanders won 4 Cups but don't have a home and might move. Is that successful? The Sharks are a healthy franchise and have been stable for a lenthy period of time. They are competitive. I would think that means they are successful.
A championship is nice but having a growing net worth and positive Ballance sheet is the actual sign of a successful franchise. We forget they are business enterprises
'Sometimes Lt. Dan would tell us to shut up and get down.'
*excellent use of the Carlton btw
Yes. They made the playoffs very soon after joining the league and have pretty much been a consistent playoff team every year
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