Would you consider the San Jose Sharks a successful franchise?

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  1. NHLpls

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    Their regular season record in the last 20 years is unmatched. They have scored more, won more, and made the playoffs more than any other franchise, yet they can't get anything done in the post season. I always thought of them as a respectable franchise but I just watched this video and it puts everything in a different light.



    What do you think?
     
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    Successful regular season franchise, but this is the place players go when they want to enjoy the weather and not play into the spring.
     
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    Without getting it done in the Cup finals, all the regular season success means a lot less. Obviously they still have a strong fanbase, so they are successful from that standpoint as there is always lot of fans at their games, so they aren't struggling by any means.
     
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    Absolutely. Regularly competitive, great fan base, and plenty of teams considered successful have gone for much longer periods without winning a Cup.
     
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    Great franchise. Amazing teal jerseys.
     
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    They have the 2nd most playoff wins over the last 20 years.
     
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    And still, they don't have anything to show for.

    They literally can't get it done.
     
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    While you have that page up, where do they rank for playoff losses over the last 20 years?
     
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    Is this the look of a man who has been successful?

    But seriously, 78% of the time in franchise history they've made the playoffs. They've made at least the 3rd round five times, just under 19%, so almost once every five years on average. The NHL is not an easy league. To win it all, you need multiple things going your way, all at the same time. There's something to be said about coming back year, after year, after year, disappointment, after disappointment, after disappointment, after disappointment, after disappointment. I watched the Kings quit from day 1 of training camp last year, and that was with 10 guys that had won the Cup for the franchise. Experience is supposed to count for something, and it meant nothing in that case. Nobody ever gets old in SJ either. It's ridiculous. They've played in a 30+ team league for 66% of their existence, and they've missed the playoffs twice in that time. The years after missing the playoffs, they went to the 3rd round, and the Final. That's bouncing back. The playoff failure is very fun, but you have to call them a successful franchise.

    Unless the standard is Cup or nothing. If that's the standard, then the 5th best player in the league might as well retire today, because he's not going to win the Hart. No real chance of winning it either, and it's all or nothing.
     
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    Yes, definitely. Being entertaining and competitive is all you can hope for, and the Sharks did great
     
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    For a 90's expansion franchise? Absolutely. They and Tampa seem to be in the best shape financially and only the Ducks have won a cup (and Tampa).
     
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    The cup is the ultimate goal, but there are many measures of success to consider and San Jose has been very successful in each of those. I certainly would consider them successful.
     
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    If there's ever been a time for winning your first Cup, it's now. The 00s were a time of young franchises getting their first (27, 12 and 14 years old), the 10s were for older franchises (45, 44 and 52 years old). The Sharks are older now than Hartford/Carolina was when they won.
     
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    I think so. Yes they havent won the cup but thats the only thing they havent done. Also the fact that it can happen today even
     
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    Well, that is a miserable way to measure success. You HAVE to win a Cup to hold your head high? No, BS. My team has won a Cup and if I could, I would absolutely trade that Cup and all the years they missed the playoffs and floundered around for a team that consistently wins in the regular season and consistently has meaningful playoff runs.
     
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    They've been a pretty successful franchise for their entire existence, minus winning a Cup, which is extremely difficult to win.
     
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    In terms of being consistent in making the playoffs (and being a strong team) and not having terrible regular seasons, yeah, because you're doing something right when you make the playoffs more often then not in your franchises' history.

    Winning a Cup is difficult (ask the Capitals), so if you're holding them to that then go ahead, they haven't been able to accomplish what they (along with every other team) have set out to do.

    However they certainly have been a successful franchise, how successful is up for interpretation
     
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    It is incredibly hard to win the Stanley Cup.

    San Jose ices a consistently competitive roster. I respect the hell out of them.
     
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    Yeah they haven't won a cup, but they've certainly been successful. I don't subscribe to line that everyone other than the champ is a loser.

    For the record, with 4 successive Superbowl appearances, the Buffalo Bills were a successful team, too.
     
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    Shoot I'd take making the playoffs nearly every year and atleast having a shot to get there than what my team has done historically. Only one team can win the Cup. Atleast San Jose has been in the thick of it and had opportunities to get it.
     
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    I love these Urinating Tree legacy of failure videos.

    Eagles
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    Actually 4 :-(
     
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    The Sharks are a younger Blues franchise ....day will come. Makes it even more enjoyable the longer you wait.
     
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