Speculation: Would Buffalo be interested in Zaitsev?

[al secord]

In the magic world of Toronto, you pay to get Toronto's unwanted garbage.

If you guys wanna get rid of Zaitsev, you gotta pay the price because no one's offering you free help so you can sign all of your superstars.

Something around Zaitsev and Kapanen/Johnson would be good, for a 4th or 5th round pick.

You're making up an argument that doesn't exist, yet the people of Toronto live in Magic World?

 

[Dogewow]

Apologies if this has been said before...I didn't read all 10 pages of replies yet.

"Would Buffalo be interested in Zaitsev?" sort of implies two questions: 1) Would the fans like it? Does he do nothing but hit guys while bleeding shots and scoring chances against? If so, the fans who call radio shows will LOVE him. I've been around the internet long enough to know his stats are bad. So, the chattering classes will (correctly) not like him. 2) Would Buffalo management be interested in this player? God only knows (literally). What is his religion? He's Russian so he's probably not an evangelical. That's the only thing they seem to care about.

Uhhh what?

 

[ottomaddox]

Of course it makes two teams to make a deal, sometimes three. Negitive value is something made up on this board. The first player I remember it being applied to was John-Michael Liles.

I've never heard the term amongst current and former NHL GMs, but I have heard them say the word "soft as fluffy feathers" in regards to JML.

 

[sufferer]

Uhhh what?

See: Sean McDermott and Tage Thompson

 

[ottomaddox]

In the magic world of Toronto, you pay to get Toronto's unwanted garbage.

If you guys wanna get rid of Zaitsev, you gotta pay the price because no one's offering you free help so you can sign all of your superstars.

Something around Zaitsev and Kapanen/Johnson would be good, for a 4th or 5th round pick.

This is trolling.

Zaitsev is an NHLer and not a bum.

The term "would like to" applies to this season. "Have to" only applies to next season (October), and only if Marner is paid a ton of money and a deal for Nylander hasn't been solidified.

 

[Dogewow]

See: Sean McDermott and Tage Thompson

I just can't tell if the poster is joking or serious?

 

[ottomaddox]

Some Buffalo fans are treating this rumor like a shipping barge full of Toronto's garbage waiting to landfill downtown Buffalo.

Zaitsev is fine. BUF could use him. Toronto could use him!

If BUF sees an opportunity here then great, but there's no way Zaitsev is a pennies to the dollar transaction.

 

[Baksfamous112]

Of course it makes two teams to make a deal, sometimes three. Negitive value is something made up on this board. The first player I remember it being applied to was John-Michael Liles.

Is it? Because from what I understand at least these guys ALL have negative value (try to trade them for assets):

- Alzner
- Spooner
- Manning
- Lucic
- Ladd
- Seabrook
- Zaitsev
- Abdelkader
- Backes
- Allen
- Darling
- Eriksson
- Jack Johnson

These are all players on top of my head as I’m sure there are more, that teams would beed to pay an incentive (give up a better asset than what is coming back) to complete a trade. Also, you may not understand it yet, but Zaitsev is DEFINITELY on that list and I’d say he’s pretty high on it too

 

[Baksfamous112]

Some Buffalo fans are treating this rumor like a shipping barge full of Toronto's garbage waiting to landfill downtown Buffalo.

Zaitsev is fine. BUF could use him. Toronto could use him!

If BUF sees an opportunity here then great, but there's no way Zaitsev is a pennies to the dollar transaction.

Toronto needs a RHD. Toronto should totally acquire Bogosian because he’s an RHD, although Buffalo could still use him!

I think 2x 2nd (2019, 2020) is fair. If TOR sees an opportunity here then great, but there’s no way Bogosian is a pennies to the dollar transaction

 

[Leaf Fans]

Is it? Because from what I understand at least these guys ALL have negative value (try to trade them for assets):

- Alzner
- Spooner
- Manning
- Lucic
- Ladd
- Seabrook
- Zaitsev
- Abdelkader
- Backes
- Allen
- Darling
- Eriksson
- Jack Johnson

These are all players on top of my head as I’m sure there are more, that teams would beed to pay an incentive (give up a better asset than what is coming back) to complete a trade. Also, you may not understand it yet, but Zaitsev is DEFINITELY on that list and I’d say he’s pretty high on it too

That is not correct. How can Zaitsev be there with some of those players. Zaitsev plays 20 minutes a game and kills penalties. He is younger faster and better than many of those players listed. He is in the wrong list. You have to put him with the player's that have value.

 

[is the answer jesus]

That is not correct. How can Zaitsev be there with some of those players. Zaitsev plays 20 minutes a game and kills penalties. He is younger faster and better than many of those players listed. He is in the wrong list. You have to put him with the player's that have value.

Zaitsev plays 20 minutes a night because Toronto has Reilly and a bunch of trash for RD.

 

[TBF1972]

That is not correct. How can Zaitsev be there with some of those players. Zaitsev plays 20 minutes a game and kills penalties. He is younger faster and better than many of those players listed. He is in the wrong list. You have to put him with the player's that have value.

If you could get a coffee for 10$, would you buy it, if it tastes about the same as all the other coffees available. Zaitsev is a 10$ coffee. Nobody buys that considering the alternatives.

 

[Leaf Fans]

Zaitsev plays 20 minutes a night because Toronto has Reilly and a bunch of trash for RD.

They have the the two Jakes, they have Zaitsev they have Dermott. They are a good defence, they can get better though.

 

[Leaf Fans]

If you could get a coffee for 10$, would you buy it, if it tastes about the same as all the other coffees available. Zaitsev is a 10$ coffee. Nobody buys that considering the alternatives.

It depends if you know what you are tasting like wine or scotch or cigars. They could have got the beans from civit cat poor. A connoisseur would know it's kopi luwak.

 

[HogtownSabresfan]

If you could get a coffee for 10$, would you buy it, if it tastes about the same as all the other coffees available. Zaitsev is a 10$ coffee. Nobody buys that considering the alternatives.

He's like a $10 Timmy's. Yech. I can't a bold for $2.50 at Starbucks

 

[The3rd]

Leafs trying to move the Zaitsev contract and not taking salary back. Won't fly with many other teams. If he is the guy the Leafs want to move so bad, they will have to get creative cause $4.5M for a bottom pairing D man for 5 more years hurts. He also has a 10 team no trade list.

He's not much better than Alzner IMO.

He can keep up with the play, he's much better than Alzner.

 

[LeafFever]

Leafs trdaed Phaneuf and Clarkson when HF tool us they could never be moved. Zaitsev is younger, cheaper. He can be moved.

 

[GBLeaf]

Leafs trdaed Phaneuf and Clarkson when HF tool us they could never be moved. Zaitsev is younger, cheaper. He can be moved.

People shouldn't take it personally, it's HF.

 

[Habs Halifax]

He can keep up with the play, he's much better than Alzner.

Good luck telling other GM's that.

 

[ottomaddox]

Toronto needs a RHD. Toronto should totally acquire Bogosian because he’s an RHD, although Buffalo could still use him!

I think 2x 2nd (2019, 2020) is fair. If TOR sees an opportunity here then great, but there’s no way Bogosian is a pennies to the dollar transaction

This contrarian view does nothing in terms of eliciting an emotional response. It does however show a real anxiousness for BUF's fanbase.

 

[LeafFever]

Zaitsev plays 20 minutes a night because Toronto has Reilly and a bunch of trash for RD.

Ask Mike Babcock if Zaitsev is crap. He loves him.

 

[The3rd]

That is not correct. How can Zaitsev be there with some of those players. Zaitsev plays 20 minutes a game and kills penalties. He is younger faster and better than many of those players listed. He is in the wrong list. You have to put him with the player's that have value.

I agree, but his value is hurt a bit based on the term of his contract...If it was a 2 year deal he would retrieve a B level prospect or an upper mid-round pick at the deadline. The Leafs wouldn't even be shopping him if this was the case until after the season. With his term it will be a challenge for sure, but they'll find a taker I believe.

 

[LeafFever]

Good luck telling other GM's that.

So wait, Zaitsev is no better than Alzner?

 

[The3rd]

Good luck telling other GM's that.

Who's Alzner's d-partner right now?

 

[coastal]

Can someone please close this thread?

please.