Speculation: Would Buffalo be interested in Zaitsev?

[Leaf Fans]

It takes two teams to make a deal...

Zaitsev has negative value at the moment and cap space is worth a lot

Of course it makes two teams to make a deal, sometimes three. Negitive value is something made up on this board. The first player I remember it being applied to was John-Michael Liles.

 

[toomuchsauce]

Apologies if this has been said before...I didn't read all 10 pages of replies yet.

"Would Buffalo be interested in Zaitsev?" sort of implies two questions: 1) Would the fans like it? Does he do nothing but hit guys while bleeding shots and scoring chances against? If so, the fans who call radio shows will LOVE him. I've been around the internet long enough to know his stats are bad. So, the chattering classes will (correctly) not like him. 2) Would Buffalo management be interested in this player? God only knows (literally). What is his religion? He's Russian so he's probably not an evangelical. That's the only thing they seem to care about.

 

[Snippit]

Of course it makes two teams to make a deal, sometimes three. Negitive value is something made up on this board. The first player I remember it being applied to was John-Michael Liles.

You think negative value is a made up concept? Negative value just means that nobody would take the player for free. That is, you would have to GIVE up assets to move him.

And I guarantee you if the Leafs put Zaitsev on waivers nobody is claiming him.

 

[Leaf Fans]

Yes, I think negative value was made up for the board. Lots of teams would take Zaitsev and you cannot guarantee that no team would take him on waivers.

 

[Leaf Fans]

delete please

 

[Snippit]

Yes, I think negative value was made up for the board. Lots of teams would take Zaitsev and you cannot guarantee that no team would take him on waivers.

So you think Milan Lucic does not have negative value?

And you can't guarantee many things in life...but Zaitsev not getting claimed on waivers? Yeah that's pretty much a sure thing. It's a bad contract.

 

[Leaf Fans]

So you think Milan Lucic does not have negative value?

And you can't guarantee many things in life...but Zaitsev not getting claimed on waivers? Yeah that's pretty much a sure thing. It's a bad contract.

No, I don't think he has negative value. As for Zaitsev, the contract, I agree, doesn't meet the expectations the team had when he signed it. But, it is not as horrible as people make it out to be.

 

[ZZamboni]

We’ll take your salary dump of Zaitsev, when you take our salary dump of Bogosian and Sobotka

 

[Snippit]

No, I don't think he has negative value. As for Zaitsev, the contract, I agree, doesn't meet the expectations the team had when he signed it. But, it is not as horrible as people make it out to be.

Okay you simply don’t know what you’re talking about then...not even trying to be rude here but you don’t understand basic concepts well enough to even have a discussion with

 

[Leaf Fans]

Okay you simply don’t know what you’re talking about then...not even trying to be rude here but you don’t understand basic concepts well enough to even have a discussion with

No, that would be you.

 

[Beerz]

Yes, I think negative value was made up for the board. Lots of teams would take Zaitsev and you cannot guarantee that no team would take him on waivers.

So I guess all the players that have been bought out over the years is made up because teams would rather pay players for nothing instead of just trading them to a different team for a 7th?

 

[Leaf Fans]

So I guess all the players that have been bought out over the years is made up because teams would rather pay players for nothing instead of just trading them to a different team for a 7th?

That is your guess. It's as good as any.

 

[TBF1972]

That is your guess. It's as good as any.

No content. Just last word.

 

[Leaf Fans]

No content. Just last word.

Ok

 

[TBF1972]

Last word

 

[Habs Halifax]

Leafs trying to move the Zaitsev contract and not taking salary back. Won't fly with many other teams. If he is the guy the Leafs want to move so bad, they will have to get creative cause $4.5M for a bottom pairing D man for 5 more years hurts. He also has a 10 team no trade list.

He's not much better than Alzner IMO.

 

[Tyler2829]

We’ll take your salary dump of Zaitsev, when you take our salary dump of Bogosian and Sobotka

Why would Buffalo do that. Zaitsev has 5 more years. Bogo and Sobotka are done after next year.

 

[CDN24]

Leafs trying to move the Zaitsev contract and not taking salary back. Won't fly with many other teams. If he is the guy the Leafs want to move so bad, they will have to get creative cause $4.5M for a bottom pairing D man for 5 more years hurts. He also has a 10 team no trade list.

He's not much better than Alzner IMO.

Right now I would not trade Alzner to acquire him. I would rather keep A;zner for 3 more years buried in Laval than Zaitsev for 5.

 

[Chainshot]

Nine pages because of Steve Simmonds nonsense commentary? Seems legit.

 

[HogtownSabresfan]

Why would Buffalo do that. Zaitsev has 5 more years. Bogo and Sobotka are done after next year.

Bogosian has had mostly a decent season. He's RD too. He's 100% tradeable. One year left. We eat $2 M and we'd get real value. Sobotka can't be moved for a bunch of pucks.

 

[HogtownSabresfan]

Nine pages because of Steve Simmonds nonsense commentary? Seems legit.

Best line yet

 

[Leaf Fans]

Leafs trying to move the Zaitsev contract and not taking salary back. Won't fly with many other teams. If he is the guy the Leafs want to move so bad, they will have to get creative cause $4.5M for a bottom pairing D man for 5 more years hurts. He also has a 10 team no trade list.

He's not much better than Alzner IMO.

We have no idea if the Leafs want to move him. Some fans do though.

 

[tsujimoto74]

Of course it makes two teams to make a deal, sometimes three. Negitive value is something made up on this board. The first player I remember it being applied to was John-Michael Liles.

It's absolutely not. There are plenty of examples of teams giving up assets to get someone to take a cap dump from them. See, e.g., Chicago giving away Teravainen to shed 1 year of Stu Bickell; New Jersey getting a 2nd for taking Marc Savard.

 

[powerstuck]

In the magic world of Toronto, you pay to get Toronto's unwanted garbage.

If you guys wanna get rid of Zaitsev, you gotta pay the price because no one's offering you free help so you can sign all of your superstars.

Something around Zaitsev and Kapanen/Johnson would be good, for a 4th or 5th round pick.

 

[Thorton02]

How the heck did Zaitsev get a 5+ year contract? No way from Buffalo.

Besides, TML have a knack for making ridiculous contracts dispensary. I'm sure Zaitsev will develop and allergic reaction to his stick tape and have to go out on LTIR soon enough.

 

[Leaf Fans]

It's absolutely not. There are plenty of examples of teams giving up assets to get someone to take a cap dump from them. See, e.g., Chicago giving away Teravainen to shed 1 year of Stu Bickell; New Jersey getting a 2nd for taking Marc Savard.

Yeah, New Jersey got Mark Savard's contract he hadn't played hockey for 5 years and a second. Florida got Graham Black and Paul Thompson. Chicago was in cap trouble and Teravainen was a bit of a risk scoring 2 assists in 25 NHL games spending most of his time in the AHL. Yes, the potential was there. The Hawks also got 2nd and 3rd round picks.