World Cup Format

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  1. namttebih Registered User

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    I know that most would like to move away from the gimmicky format that we saw and will most likely see again, myself being one of them. That being said, I had a broken foot over the summer and out of sheer boredom decided to create my own. I posted it on the main boards thinking that it would be a fun summer thread but it didn't get any traction, so I'll attempt it here, where it probably should have been in the first place. So if this looks familiar to you it's because it is a shameless re-post.

    I’ve created 10 teams from the following regions; Ontario, Canada West, Canada East, USA West, USA East, Russia, Sweden, Finland, Czechoslovakia (CR and Slovakia combined) and Germanic countries (Germany, Switzerland and Austria combined). I have only used players currently involved in NHL systems playing in NA.

    There are obvious omissions from teams like Ontario and Sweden where the depth at certain positions made it very difficult to choose. I’ve also most likely accidentally forgotten someone, so please feel free to yell and scream.

    Players are on the team from the region of which they were born in for the most part, but there is the odd case where that doesn’t apply.

    USA EAST

    Gaudreau—-Eichel—-P. Kane
    Connor—-Larkin—-Atkinson
    Debrincat—-Hayes—-Saad
    Pacioretty—-Hughes—-Kreider

    Warensky—-Carlson
    Pesce—-Hanifin
    Krug—-McAvoy

    Gibson
    Hellebuyck

    USA WEST

    M. Tkachuck—- Matthews—-Wheeler
    Keller—-Pavelski—-Kessel
    Lee—-Nelson—-Oshie
    Guentzel—-Mittelstadt—-B. Tkachuk

    Slavin—-Jones
    Byfuglien—-Trouba
    McDonagh—-Suter

    Bishop
    Miller

    ONTARIO

    Monahan—-McDavid—-Couture
    Stamkos—-Tavares—-Marner
    Seguin—-Scheifele—Duchene
    Jenner—-O’Reilly—-Giroux

    Burns—-Doughty
    Subban—-Pietrangelo
    Ellis—-Giordano

    Murray
    Binnington

    CANADA EAST

    Marchand—-Crosby—-Bergeron
    Huberdeau—-Mackinnon—-Marchessault
    Drouin—-Couturier—-Perron
    Gourde—-PLD—-Mantha

    Vlasic—-Letang
    P. Myers—-Matheson
    Savard—-Chabot

    Fleury
    Crawford

    CANADA WEST

    Benn —-Point—-Stone
    Hall—-Barzal—-Eberele
    Schenn—-Toews—-Gallagher
    E. Kane—-Domi—-Debrusk

    Rielly—-Weber
    Dumba—-Spurgeon
    Morrissey—-Barrie

    Price
    Holtby

    CZECHOSLOVAKIA

    Pasternak—-Hertl—-Voracek
    Tatar—-Krejci—-Frolik
    Vrana—-Zacha—-Simon
    Palat—-Faska—-Nicas

    Gudas—-Chara
    Sekera—-Polak
    Kempny—-Cernak

    Halak
    Rittich


    FINLAND

    Laine—-Barkov—-Rantanen
    Kakko—-Aho—-Kappanen
    Armia—-Kotkaniemi—-Teravainen
    Granlund—- Haula—-Lehkonen

    Heiskanen—-Ristolainen
    Valimaki—-Vatanen
    Lindell—-Maata

    Rask
    Rinne

    GERMANIC

    Meier—-Draisaitl—-Fiala
    Niederreiter—-Hisher—-Grabner
    Raffl—-Baertschi—-Vanik
    Bokk—-Kondelik—-Kuhnhackl

    Weber—-Josi
    Mueller—-Holzer
    Seider—-Siegenthaler

    Grubauer
    Greiss

    RUSSIA

    OV—-Malkin—-Kucherov
    Panarin—-Kuznetsov—-Tarasenko
    Svechnikov—-Anisimov—-Radulov
    Gusev—-Dadonov—-Kovalchuk

    Sergachev—-Provorov
    Zadorov—-Orlov
    Kulikov—-Zaitsev

    Bob
    Vasilevsky

    SWEDEN

    Nylander—-Backstrom—-Ardvisson
    Landeskog—-Zibenejad—-Karlsson
    Forsberg—-Petterson—-Johansson
    Rakell-—Backlund—-Lindholm

    Karlsson—-Hedman
    Lindholm—-OEL
    Klingberg—-Dahlin

    Lundqvist
    Lehner
     
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  2. Jahara Registered User

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    Still missing Team Europe. Much better than Germany actually.

    Just wonder why people keep making rosters containing only 20 players like this? I know that you are able to dress that many players but World Cup rosters do contain 23 players and to the Olympics it is 25. This is a thing NHL should change and make it possible to bring 22 skaters for every game.
     
  3. Erikfromfin Registered User

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    My Finland

    1st team

    Patrik Laine - Aleksander Barkov - Mikael Granlund
    Teuvo Teräväinen - Sebastian Aho - Mikko Rantanen
    Roope Hintz - Mikko Koivu - Kasperi Kapanen
    Erik Haula - Valtteri Filppula - Joel Armia
    Henrik Borgström
    Kaapo Kakko

    Miro Heiskanen - Rasmus Ristolainen
    Esa Lindell - Sami Vatanen
    Markus Nutivaara - Henri Jokiharju
    Olli Määttä - Juuso Riikola

    Pekka Rinne
    Tuukka Rask
    Antti Raanta

    2nd team

    Artturi Lehkonen - Jesperi Kotkaniemi - Joonas Donskoi
    Harri Pesonen - Sakari Manninen - Teemu Pulkkinen
    Markus Granlund - Antti Suomela - Jesse Puljujärvi
    Joona Luoto - Jori Lehterä - Marko Anttila
    Eetu Luostarinen
    Miikka Salomäki

    Mikko Lehtonen - Juuso Välimäki
    Sami Niku - Oliwer Kaski
    Ville Heinola - Urho Vaakanainen
    Niko Mikkola - Jani Hakanpää

    Juuse Saros
    Mikko Koskinen
    Joonas Korpisalo
     
  4. namttebih Registered User

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    Obviously Team Leftover Europe would be stronger but I was attempting to group the players geographically. I even created a northern Europe team comprised of players from the remaining Scandinavian countries, Baltic countries, Belarus and Benelux (even taking liberties and including Sean Day haha) but it wasn't a pretty sight. I'll post it when I get home for laughs.

    As far as the roster size? It's just a fun list man!
     
  5. Kshahdoo Registered User

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    I don't wanna discuss your teams' selection, and your approach to it is pretty questionable. I just want to say, it should be a very short tournament, because it's going to be held in the middle of NHL season. I doubt there will be more, than 8 teams.
     
  6. namttebih Registered User

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    How so?
     
  7. Kshahdoo Registered User

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    I think, there is a risk of a big political shitstorm around such a selection, especially in Canada. I doubt, NHL will ever do it.
     
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    I would not like to see such a tournament, however this is a fantasy roster for Canada East:

    Huberdeau Crosby MacKinnon
    Marchand Bergeron Mantha
    Danault Couturier Perron
    Marchessault Dubois Joseph
    Drouin, Killorn

    Vlasic Chabot
    Matheson Letang
    Girard Savard
    Myers, Scandella

    Fleury
    Allen
    Domingue

    Couldn't find space for any players from PEI or Newfoundland. Maybe Dobson and Newhook soon. Very shallow goaltending these days. I'm actually surprised that this team does have just enough to compete with the others.
     
  9. namttebih Registered User

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    I'm still not quite understanding who would cause the shit storm in Canada when they've used similar formats for international junior tournaments in the past.

    If there should be any political shit storm you would think that it would be from team Czechoslovakia, considering they fought to separate from each other. Or the unification of Germanic peoples. That didn't go over very well the last time that it was attempted. :laugh:

    Regardless, Team Europe and NA Young Guns were formed to spotlight as much talent as possible. This was was I was attempting as well.
     
  10. namttebih Registered User

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    I tried forming teams from each province and one from the m
    Maritime provinces plus Newfoundland but they ended up pretty weak.
     
  11. Kshahdoo Registered User

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    Thete is a distinct regional division in Canadian youth hockey, you can't say the same about professional one.
     
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    My preferred format for this would be 'cancelled'
     
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    So team Czechoslovakia is just 4 Slovaks, and for some reason marincin is there. Id rather have my people play under the Hungarian flag than anything like that
     
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  14. namttebih Registered User

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    Ok, fine. You still haven't explained why there would be an issue at the professional level. If I don't care if Mete plays for Montreal as someone from York region, why would I care if Rielly represents Canada West as a Leaf fan. I'm probably way off here, but I'm totally unsure of what I'm arguing against because your posts have been so vague.
     
  15. namttebih Registered User

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    Who have I omitted? I'll gladly change a lineup if you make a strong argument.
     
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    I get it. Everyone hates the gimmicky bullshit. I do too. I clearly stated as much in the OP. I was hoping for roster discussions more than anything out of this.

    It's obviously an NHL tournament so the North American depth will be greatest. I was looking for discussion on whether the split NA countries or the combined European countries could compete with Russia, Finland and Sweden.
     
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    Not that, but in no way would the Slovak federation agree to that. They’d rather lose badly than fold to the Czechs
     
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    I think, you are missing a ZSSR (UCCP) team.
     
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    Wut?
     
  20. namttebih Registered User

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    Not literally-as in war. But fought as a people to have their own sovereign nations.

    Thanks for the great contribution!
     
  21. namttebih Registered User

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    I tried to make one using the stipulations listed. Not enough players to form a team and none would make the Russian team.
     
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    Fair enough. How involved were the federations at the last World Cup?
     
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    Is team USA really that dominant that it needs to be broken up?
     
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    Not dominant, no. Deep, yes.

    The American young guns were an integral part of that NA team. This is essentially a NA/NHL tournament
     
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    Just have 8 nations with a qualifying round.
     

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