Discussion in 'National Hockey League Talk' started by Devsguy24, Apr 7, 2021.
Jeez, don't start that again.
Originally perhaps, but I think both terms are usable. Corps meaning the entire group, core meaning the best part. The "meat and potatoes" if you will
When Eddie Olczyk says “See how he gets inside the dots there.” when a player takes an open lane to the middle of the ice, like he did something crazy.
Or the “see how he turns his top hand over” when taking a backhand shot, as if it’s a magic trick and not the normal physics of a backhand shot.
If disagree. I'd... wait, I feel we had this exact same argument exactly when Montreal was losing to Toronto last time while I was sitting in this exact same chair.
The etymology of the term stems from early soccer rules (which early hockey copied) where forward passes (and in the earlier half of this early era, closer to the attacking goal than the ball/puck at all). A player in violation of this rule was said to be "off his side of the ball." Pluralizing it doesn't really make sense if you consider the origin of the term, but language does evolve, and that includes etymologically inaccurate words, such as "funguses" now being an acceptable pluralization of "fungus" instead of insisting on "fungi."
Then again, English doesn't actually have an official governing body for the language, unlike, say, metropolitan French (though L'Académie Française is a bunch of pretentious blowhards).
I think offsides is actually more technically "correct" than offside, it's just become less common in North American English (esp. in hockey parlance) over the decades. But I would not say it's wrong, or discourage anyone from saying it.
I'm over 40, and my best friends and I are academics, so "celly" is not a word I've ever heard anyone say. Certainly sounds stupid.
The "generational" thing seemed to kick in about ten years ago (?), and now everyone is saying it. I guess I'm fine with it, but the problem is you can't apply it to multiple people of the same generation. And one generation is usually about 25 years. So, for example, Crosby and McDavid cannot both be generational players. So, in practical terms, the word is pretty useless.
Some hockey terms commonly used by broadcasters are strange. The weirdest, perhaps, being "makes no mistake". What the hell is that? We always hear it when broadcasters / sports-highlight show hosts describe a nice goal/shot. Why is always used in hockey? I have no idea. Imagine you were watching sports highlights of the NBA, some guy made a 3-point shot, and the commentator (repeatedly) said: "...and he does not shoot in error!"
I'm always out on an island with this one. Most of the guys I play hockey with call it a jersey now but there's a few hold-outs.
Called a sweater because Canada grew-up playing hockey outside and it needed to be warm - so not far from your walk in the mountains mention. I also have always like the small differences in sports wording. Soccer kit, football jersey, hockey sweater, etc.
Everyone uses 'celly'. It just sounds so moronic. I honestly have felt physically cringe sometimes.
I get it, I do. I use the word 'asset' in my life also in that context where a person brings an 'asset' or I have an 'asset'.
But the context that it's used now is that the people are the assets. It just bothers me. Like - 'Team X have these assets they can trade away.' It's just such a armchair GM thing to me.
whoa, sweet sweet knowledge, thanks!
Also, "get pucks in deep", "shoot for rebounds".
Gordie Howe and Bobby Orr spring to mind. It's more like a holy trinity.
Franchise Player as a term pre-dates the video game. Teams use it all the time.
I agree on celly, though.
Hyperbole is a word that should be removed from HF vocabulary.
That word gets used more often then not out of context.
Targetted more at media members than fans, but the word "benefactor" obviously can't be used responsibly, so it probably shouldn't be used at all.
Player nicknames, which are almost always just a truncated name with an S or a Y added, being used in interviews/by broadcasters is super cringey.
Just ask Morgan Reilly.
I am guilty of all but the generational one haha.
If you feel like disliking Bergeron for any reason, he was essentially the advanced stats poster boy when the idea was growing and he proved them right by being Bergeron, not flashy but incredibly effective and tilts the ice. Ever since fans are trying to trot out 'advanced stats' to 'prove' some point or the other.
I'm not even really against them either, but it's back to armchair GM style of fans again.
I grew up with ties. I had to do shoot-outs as a kid in tournaments and thought they were ridiculous then.
It's a 'bonus point'.
Butch Goring: and he scored that one up in the toy department.
I watch every islanders game and cringe every time. Still not even sure what the analogy is.
Not really sure if this is sarcastic or not, but it doesn't really change the fact that I'm a nerd who knows random crap and nobody should take me seriously.
#1. shouting "HOW MUCH TIME IS LEFT?!" before the 1 minute warning PA at stadiums.
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