Prospect Info: With the 39th Overall Pick the New York Rangers Select Olof Lindbom

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  1. Kakko Schmakko Registered User

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    true, but then what about Raanta and Talbot
     
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    What about Lehner? Hellebuyck? Samsonov? Sometimes goalies benefit from a system that suits them.

    Let's not pretend goalies "only" develop in our system.
     
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    Talbot, sure.

    Raanta was well-regarded before he came here. He didn't just materialize out of nowhere under Allaire. Raanta was unhappy and Chicago traded him because he wanted to leave as Chicago was going to roll with Crawford and Darling.
     
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    I didn't mean to start an Allaire thing. I'm on the record as saying he's good at his job. I just feel like some people here think he literally has The Midas Touch with goalies, when in reality most guys he works with will still fail or stagnate, and other guys in his position are also very good. Just look over at the Isles and Mitch Korn.
     
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    so true. I remember during a silent moment broadcasted from Nassau a fan yelled out “get rid of Maloney”. He was awful for the Isles too.
     
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    hello Kevyn Adams - your rebuild needs a lynch pin goalie, send us Matej Pekar for this guy drafted 55 spots sooner
     
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    Which is ridiculous and I don't understand the mentality.

    They should be valued like a Pitcher or Quarterback.

    Yeah, everyone has a few, some better than others, the majority can "hack it", but the guys who can steal games on their own are a diamond in the rough.

    *edit 6/26/2020, @Amazing Kreiderman not calling you out. I semi-agree with the tactic outside of a guy like Shesterkin's talent being there and filling a team need. I was just saying my piece about the sportwide perspective of the position. It boggles my mind. There is a weird disconnect in the logic.
     
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    I would die if we could pry Matej Pekar out of Buffalo. Imagine him and Lemieux on the ice? or teams having to consider Pekar or Lemieux alternating shifts? Then TDA and Trouba in the next zone alternating shifts?

    Reminds me of the mid/late 90's Devils with layers of skilled peckerheads.

    NYR/Boston games would be fun to watch the next few years.
     
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    I think @Amazing Kreiderman means it in terms of scarcity. Like, a team only needs one or two good goalies. Need as many forwards and defensemen as possible. But you only need a couple goalies and even the second one doesn’t play much. Of course having a lot of good goalies isn’t a ‘bad’ thing. But it’s just such a big drop off from forwards and d.
    I think we all appreciate the value of the starting goalie.
     
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    If I'm Chicago's GM it absolutely does make sense for me to draft Askarov. Unless they win the lottery if he's there he should be their guy. They have an aging often injured Crawford backed up by Malcolm Subban--three 25 year olds in the minors (none of them really NHL caliber) and a couple late round unsigned prospects.
     
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    Goalies are incredibly important, far more so than punters and kickers (although good kicking is actually undervalued in the NFL). The point of it is, as it pertains to the draft, you're much more likely to find a good or even great goalie in the third round on than you are to find great skaters--proportional to how many are picked, not volume, obviously. So unless you're a team that is absolutely set up front and on defense for the next several years--I'm talking a young superstar, a bunch of other quality young, cheap assets and some really good prospects--I can't get behind drafting a goalie in the first round. This theoretical "stacked" team that I described can reach for that goalie because it may be "the missing piece," but for other teams you're better off taking a goalie in the back-half of the second, the third, or later, while also trying to find a good UDFA guy or European free agent.

    And even that stacked team, they could probably find an above-average goalie as a free agent or through trades for pretty cheap.
     
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    Depending on how the draft breaks for the Sens, Askarov with their 2nd pick is a no brainer. Hawks management might go goalie, but they seem to like to go for a cheaper, re-tooling option at that position. They can get a good position player, look for a more typical draft position goalie and bring in a cheaper mid tier goalie while this core starts to slow down. I am going to end up eating these words, but the Toews-Kane group is becoming irrelevant in the face of the young talent in the league.
     
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    Looks as if he signed back on with Mora? I can't understand the video but it's my understanding it's covered in here.

     
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    Okay guess that settles it. Hopefully he can stick and not shit the bed.
     
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    BREAKING: LINDBOM'S HAND DURING CONTRACT SIGNING. OUT FOR 4 MONTHS.
     
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    Google translete: "Olof Lindbom extends with Mora IK! Thus, the goalkeeper pair is nailed next season! #MoraIK"
     
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    It's really strange that my company blocks twitter but not instagram.

     
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    Also, if it wasn't mentioned in the other stuff posted, Isak Wallin is leaving Mora. He was the primary starting goalie for them last year. So it actually looks like Mora will roll with Lindbom and a 19-year-old kid named Mateus Ward.
     
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    Thought they would take Drurys kid w this pick

    No rush on a G so let this kid simmer
     
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    How do we feel about Lindbom’s progress so far this year?
     
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    When healthy, he is playing well. They still have 2 years to decide and with Georgiev and Huska being 3 years removed from UFA status, I wouldn't be shocked to see him get an ELC in 2022.
     
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    Two years ago, he only managed like eight games and wasn't good.

    Last year, he managed 16 Allsvenskan games and wasn't very good. He wasn't terrible but he wasn't good, either.

    He has played in seven games this year with a .914 SV%, which is by far his best performance, but again we're talking about seven games. He has also missed a few due to injury already.

    Tough to evaluate his progress this year given that it's such a small sample. If he can stay healthy and play the way he has so far that would be great. To this point he has obviously been disappointing, but he has youth on his side and a couple years to establish himself.
     
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    It is too late to take back this pick right?
     
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    like maybe we can salvage a 4th rounder after wasting a 2nd rounder.
     

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