Player Discussion Max Jones

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Nasty Cogs

Ah yes Andrew "scumbag" Cogliano as the rest of the league calls him... not sure anyone can out nasty him

 

[DigiDuck]

Jones is a buzzsaw out there and it's awesome to watch. I feel like he can be a poor man's Rick Nash or Jamie Benn. Probably won't develop the shot/sniping ability but he should be pretty difficult to play against on both sides of the puck.

And I know Kase is the energizer bunny but he's more a buzzard to me. The two of them on the a line next year...the buzzard and the buzzsaw. Put them with Henrique and that line should possess the puck quite a bit.

 

[cheesymc]

Chris Kreider if he adds the scoring touch. I don't see any Etem in his game at all, I'm not sure I understand that one. Etem could not carry the puck on his stick at all, Jones is really good at that. His only problem has been finishing off plays - but I think that will come

Hmm.. a smaller and more annoying Kreider is a good comparison... both can skate well and you would think both would be able to score more goals with all that talent.

 

[bsu]

His "attitude" reminds me of tkachuk

 

[Anaheim4ever]

Just wait til he levels an Oiler like this & look at how he smiles on his way out in being ejected from the game

 

[Ducks DVM]

His "attitude" reminds me of tkachuk

The elder, maybe. I don’t doubt Jones would drop his gloves at all.

 

[cheesymc]

I’m ok with him willing to go over the edge if it makes him an effective player. Look at All Star Marchand? Dude elbows and licks people... wtf

 

[Anaheim4ever]

I’m ok with him willing to go over the edge if it makes him an effective player. Look at All Star Marchand? Dude elbows and licks people... wtf

Marchand is short & elbows people, his favorite player must be the equally short: late Ted Lindsay aka Terrible Ted - the player responsible for elbowing becoming a penalty in the NHL rules. Terrible Ted was an elbowing machine

 

[Static]

Max will do well this season to better identify the puck carrier on his line and get it to that player quicker. He just isn't that guy.

 

[duxfan1101]

Max will do well this season to better identify the puck carrier on his line and get it to that player quicker. He just isn't that guy.

A couple comments mentioned that "dump and chase" likely counts as a turnover, and that is definitely Jones' style.

 

[Static]

A couple comments mentioned that "dump and chase" likely counts as a turnover, and that is definitely Jones' style.

I asked the guy if that counted and didn't see that he answered. If so that is a definite flaw in the numbers and would explain some of Max's inclusion.

 

[bsu]

Eakins, Jones Postgame Comments | NHL.com

Dude's huge.

 

[Trojans86]

I think he is our most underrated player. He does so many little things that help the team.

 

[Kalv]

I think he is our most underrated player. He does so many little things that help the team.

He has some nice moves offensively but lacks the general offensive awareness to ever be a big points guy but yes, he can be effective in other ways. A good player to have on your team.

 

[ohcomeonref]

Eakins, Jones Postgame Comments | NHL.com

Dude's huge.

Maybe we can team him up with Terry as a sort-of "big brother/little brother" situation.

 

[KyleJRM]

I have zero trouble believing Jones has tons of turnovers. He's an energy guy, wrecking ball type. He also has hands of absolute stone.

 

[Ducks DVM]

I’m still seeing him as Matt Beleskey, without the hard shot, hard hits, quick willingness to drop the gloves to protect teammates, or offensive hockey sense. He needs to work on at least two of those things or he’s just going to be an average 3rd line grinder.

 

[Kalv]

I’m still seeing him as Matt Beleskey, without the hard shot, hard hits, quick willingness to drop the gloves to protect teammates, or offensive hockey sense. He needs to work on at least two of those things or he’s just going to be an average 3rd line grinder.

I think he is already settling into more of a 4th liner with ability to go up 1-2 lines for some spurts.
His lack of offensive awareness is very obvious, it's his other tools that make him a good player

 

[ohcomeonref]

I’m still seeing him as Matt Beleskey, without the hard shot, hard hits, quick willingness to drop the gloves to protect teammates, or offensive hockey sense. He needs to work on at least two of those things or he’s just going to be an average 3rd line grinder.

I wish the man would start laying the body hard. It's an underrated presence on a hockey team.

 

[Goose of Reason]

What I find interesting about Jones is that his shot was always a strength as a prospect but he just couldn't seem to ever get it off last season. I wonder if that's injuries piling up that he doesn't have it in his arsenal or that he's a young guy and still working through nerves/feeling like he has to go 100% speed all of the time instead of allowing himself that extra half second to get himself in a better position to release it. I don't think he'll ever be a big offensive contributor but he's got pretty decent hands and if he can figure his shot out he'll be able to carve out a useful complementary role.

 

[Trojans86]

I wish the man would start laying the body hard. It's an underrated presence on a hockey team.

He is way way bigger, stronger, faster and better in front of the net but not nearly as good of a scorer. Whenever Belesky isn't scoring he is a negative. Jones is still a positive in my book when he isn't a scoring. He just needs to develop from a 3rd line grinder to a 1st or 2nd line role player.

 

[bsu]

Jones is huge now.

 

[Anaheim4ever]

What I find interesting about Jones is that his shot was always a strength as a prospect but he just couldn't seem to ever get it off last season. I wonder if that's injuries piling up that he doesn't have it in his arsenal or that he's a young guy and still working through nerves/feeling like he has to go 100% speed all of the time instead of allowing himself that extra half second to get himself in a better position to release it. I don't think he'll ever be a big offensive contributor but he's got pretty decent hands and if he can figure his shot out he'll be able to carve out a useful complementary role.

You are correct. Jones had a very good shot in the juniors and he put up McTavish type numbers with lopsided goals to assists.

 

[Kalv]

Ritchie also had "a great shot". But if that's your only attribute then players seem to struggle in the NHL. Heck, Silf had an incredible shot but he was never a big scorer.
Shot itself does not mean much imo

 

[Paul4587]

I don’t ever remember Jones having that great a shot in juniors. His goal to assist ratio was high but that was more because of his lack of playmaking ability than anything else.