Winter Transfer Rumors and Discussion Part II

[The Abusement Park]

They were the best team in the league last year. This year, they look likely to be in the top 4 in a very good year for the league. I think they are improving.

Actually Leicester was the best team in the league last year. And Arsenal was the 2nd best and Spuds was the 3rd best. But I mean 3rd is close enough to first right?

 

[Vipers31]

One thing we can say with certainty is that Brandt will never be better than a 25 year old who has never played in a top league.

Well said.

 

[Corto]

Actually Leicester was the best team in the league last year. And Arsenal was the 2nd best and Spuds was the 3rd best. But I mean 3rd is close enough to first right?

Leicester were champions, sure. They did great.

But if you were actually watching the games, I'd say Spurs were playing better football overall, as was Arsenal.

Leicester was insanely lucky last year, both with injuries and some ridiculous refereeing decisions and Vardy's ability to flop.

No side with a 70% possession or more in the glory days of ManU or Arsenal or Chelsea had as many penalties as Leicester did last year.
It was borderline ridiculous at what kind of decisions they were getting their way, especially in the 2nd half of the season when the Cinderella story was heating up.

 

[Havre]

Walker and Rose linked to Man United. Rose linked to Man City.

Spurs would be stupid to sell either to another Premier League team.

Spurs is finally putting together a perennial top 4 contender. They have the best defense in the Premier League, and a lot of that is because they have the best RB and LB in the Premier League. Why would they get rid of two of their best players? They need to improve their team, not make it worse. They need more attacking players as good as Alli and Kane.

They won't.

60m + Shaw + Valencia might get Utd somewhere

This has nothing to do with reality.

 

[Prntscrn]

Right now pace is something Liverpool could really need though

 

[Bon Esprit]

According to German media Badstuber from Bayern came to an agreement with Schalke 04 (not Manchester City) for the reminder of this season. So now it depends on Bayern to seal the deal (loan).

 

[Savant]

Right now pace is something Liverpool could really need though

Yeah without Mane their attack is relatively slow compared to others. That's why they need a similar winger in moreso than any other reason; just for their shape.

 

[bluesfan94]

I was kidding

It was 1 AM, I wasn't tuned to sarcasm. My bad

 

[Just Win]

According to German media Badstuber from Bayern came to an agreement with Schalke 04 (not Manchester City) for the reminder of this season. So now it depends on Bayern to seal the deal (loan).

Badstuber also needs to agree to a contract extension first as he is in his last year of contract. And apparently he is asking for 4.5 mil per year which is quite a lot for a player who hasn't been healthy since 11/12.

 

[YNWA14]

Dembele is a much better player than Brandt or Pulisic though I don't know why that would come up vs. Promes. I don't think Promes is world class; I just don't have as high an opinion on Brandt or Pulisic as some do. Dembele definitely should become better than Promes, if he isn't already.

 

[Bon Esprit]

Badstuber also needs to agree to a contract extension first as he is in his last year of contract. And apparently he is asking for 4.5 mil per year which is quite a lot for a player who hasn't been healthy since 11/12.

Correct. Would you re-sign a player with his injury record? I wouldn't. But apparently Bayern are still interested in his services.
Whatever, I wish Badstuber all the best and that he stays healthy. This man is a true fighter.

 

[Vipers31]

Badstuber also needs to agree to a contract extension first as he is in his last year of contract. And apparently he is asking for 4.5 mil per year which is quite a lot for a player who hasn't been healthy since 11/12.

I also wondered if that is still the rule or whether they changed it. From a legal POV, employee assignment, it makes no sense for that requirement to exist (at least any more).

Either way, Bayern has officially announced he's leaving for Schalke on loan, without any report on an extension.

 

[Paulie Gualtieri]

Moussa Dembele (the Tottenham one) apparently has an offer from China. Love him, but he's getting up there in age and we all know how much China likes to pay. Would consider it in the summer. Not now.

 

[cgf]

Dembele is a much better player than Brandt or Pulisic though I don't know why that would come up vs. Promes. I don't think Promes is world class; I just don't have as high an opinion on Brandt or Pulisic as some do. Dembele definitely should become better than Promes, if he isn't already.

You haven't watched enough Spartak or Leverkusen if you think Promes matches Brandt in any category but pace.

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

Not sure who this Promes guy is but Brandt is legit. Fantastic player.

Anyway,

- Hearing Spurs want Druissi but River want 10 million plus him to be loaned back to River.

- Also reading Spurs want Gaitain on loan

 

[The Abusement Park]

Leicester were champions, sure. They did great.

But if you were actually watching the games, I'd say Spurs were playing better football overall, as was Arsenal.

Leicester was insanely lucky last year, both with injuries and some ridiculous refereeing decisions and Vardy's ability to flop.

No side with a 70% possession or more in the glory days of ManU or Arsenal or Chelsea had as many penalties as Leicester did last year.
It was borderline ridiculous at what kind of decisions they were getting their way, especially in the 2nd half of the season when the Cinderella story was heating up.

Playing "pretty" doesn't mean you play better soccer, whatever style gets you wins, is the better football. Arsenal play the best/prettiest football in the league typically and they haven't won a title in forever. Yes Leicester's season was a fluke and an anomaly, but over 38 games they played the best and most effective football, which Tottenham did not do. The table at the end of the year shows which team was best, worst, 11th best and Leicester was the best and Tottenham was the third best. It's pretty simple.

 

[Savant]

James Pearce has Liverpool in on Julian Brandt.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/spor...s/liverpool-eye-german-winger-julian-12433455

Probably one for the summer but they are going to try. Pulisic and Brandt seem like the priorities over a guy like Promes.

 

[The Abusement Park]

Not sure who this Promes guy is but Brandt is legit. Fantastic player.

Anyway,

- Hearing Spurs want Druissi but River want 10 million plus him to be loaned back to River.

- Also reading Spurs want Gaitain on loan

Promes is a good, player, but I think he tops out as a good to really good player. Brandt for sure has higher ceiling than promes from what I've seen of them though.

 

[YNWA14]

You haven't watched enough Spartak or Leverkusen if you think Promes matches Brandt in any category but pace.

I would say the same I guess? I've watched enough of both to see that Promes has a better shot, is a better dribbler, is faster and stronger on the ball for the things that are most glaring. He's also a bit better in a bunch of other things but meh. IMO, mind.

 

[Deebo]

 

[YNWA14]

That's a nice pick-up for Everton, IMO.

 

[Theon]

Shame it didn't work out, I quite rated him. But it looks like we got a got back a decent fee for once.

With all the Europa/FA cup games coming up, it opens up more opportunities for Fosu Mensah.

 

[hatterson]

Yea, I'm going to assume Schneiderlin will go to Everton and play well. I think he's got quality, but for some reason it just didn't work at United.

 

[Jeffrey]

I like Klopp but he is really trimming the squad and for the last push and with Mane missing and little cover its a recipe for disaster.
Imagine selling Lucas and Sakho in the same transfer period with Matip already injured its becoming worrisome even with Gomez.
As long as he gets the right player for him im good.

 

[Savant]

I like Klopp but he is really trimming the squad and for the last push and with Mane missing and little cover its a recipe for disaster.
Imagine selling Lucas and Sakho in the same transfer period with Matip already injured its becoming worrisome even with Gomez.
As long as he gets the right player for him im good.

Gomez is taking Lucas spot. Sakho isn't getting games anyway. I do think he underestimated how many players he needed this term though, but I didn't think that he anticipated needed wingers this bad. But I also don't think he settled on a 433 until late in the preseason either when most of the work was already done.