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Winnipeg owners in NYC tuesday to meet with NHL Exec. committee

RandR

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manisback121 said:
All I am saying is that I am happy there's a fanbase willing to pay (though they could have and should have charged more if the demand was that great).
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That is easy to say in hindsight, but it is now apparent that nobody connected with TNSE or the league had any idea that tickets were going to sell out as quickly as they did. There was risk in both pricing the tickets as high as they did (average ticket price of over $80 is one of the highest in the league) and requiring all subscribers to commit to 3 to 5 year terms.

And there is a limit to how much you can charge even when demand exceeds supply; at some point TNSE would have risked backlash from being seen as simply gouging customers.
 
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manisback121 said:
Graduated with a concentrated minor in economics, with business and economics credits in sports and entertainment industries as this was initially what I wanted to do in school as an undergrad. Almost had a paper published for microeconomics class analyzing the evolving business model of the national hockey league. Reliance on the media and advertising industries has grown more in the recent 20 to 30 years than it had between the 50s and 70s with the slow integration of license to broadcast games.

Media broadcasting and consequently television dollars were instituted to assist the recovery from when Ore retired and the coming of the great one. Gretzky's publicity and such increased demand astronomically to where tv demand was so great that the teams in the league could no longer walk away from the cash and exposure when it was evident that gate revenue was no longer going to help turn a profit.
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Well now that you have gotten the issue of presenting your e-peen to everyone.....

Bolded section.... I think you mean Orr as in Bobby, maybe spelling might have been an issue in that paper of yours not getting published.

Small market teams have a much better chance of success in the new NHL. With the cap, revenue sharing and in Canadas case the dollar, small market teams have it much easier now.

TNSE has had the idea for NHL back in Winnipeg for years now, and Chip and Thomson are pretty bright guys and will have had lots of time to draw up business models and re-configure to figure in new info.

The fact that the company that owns the team actually owns the building and that the building has been a proven money maker without the NHL..... well we can only guess how much the stock will rise now.
 
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southpaw24 said:
Well now that you have gotten the issue of presenting your e-peen to everyone.....

Bolded section.... I think you mean Orr as in Bobby, maybe spelling might have been an issue in that paper of yours not getting published.

Small market teams have a much better chance of success in the new NHL. With the cap, revenue sharing and in Canadas case the dollar, small market teams have it much easier now.

TNSE has had the idea for NHL back in Winnipeg for years now, and Chip and Thomson are pretty bright guys and will have had lots of time to draw up business models and re-configure to figure in new info.

The fact that the company that owns the team actually owns the building and that the building has been a proven money maker without the NHL..... well we can only guess how much the stock will rise now.
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Rule #1...don't go onto a hockey forum and mispell 'Orr' while trying to demonstrate your knowledge. Yikes. I'm going to assume it's a typo. Still a very, very bad typo to make around here. :)

I might also question how when his studies on the topic of the NHL took place. Perhaps 12 years ago, or more? 15? Times change. I get the impression that his knowledge of the modern NHL, TNSE, Thomson, and the MTS Centre, is dated. Anyways, no one can blame him for being skeptical. Me, I believe TNSE and the NHL have crunched the numbers extensively in the last 5 years, and have had microscopes on each other. It definitely appears they have lined up all their ducks in a row in order to give this a legitimate chance to succeed. No guarantees of course. Small market and all.
 
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I post a lot here with an iPad. Sure I'm not the only one. Let's be a little more gentle on the autocorrect stuff, mkay? ;-)
 
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RandR said:
That is easy to say in hindsight, but it is now apparent that nobody connected with TNSE or the league had any idea that tickets were going to sell out as quickly as they did. There was risk in both pricing the tickets as high as they did (average ticket price of over $80 is one of the highest in the league) and requiring all subscribers to commit to 3 to 5 year terms.

And there is a limit to how much you can charge even when demand exceeds supply; at some point TNSE would have risked backlash from being seen as simply gouging customers.
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Excellent points, and the last thing they wanted to do was charge high now, then if the team performs badly have to slash prices in five years - the optics would have been horrible.
 
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One of the former Atlanta Spirit owners is making rumblings about filing an injunction against the sale due to him not being notified of local buyers while the case was being settled.

I would not be surprised to see the NHL try to rush this through before anyone has to discuss the details of this sale under oath.
 
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I would not be surprised to see the NHL try to rush this through before anyone has to discuss the details of this sale under oath.
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Seriously? I think the NHL brass hates the ASG. I don't think they are going to allow one obstructionist member of that group to derail the timeframe.

There is no local owner in Atlanta. If there were, wouldn't we have heard about how they were "shut out" by now? This is just an attempted moneygrab by a member of ASG.
 
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One of the former Atlanta Spirit owners is making rumblings about filing an injunction against the sale due to him not being notified of local buyers while the case was being settled.

I would not be surprised to see the NHL try to rush this through before anyone has to discuss the details of this sale under oath.
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Twitter from: Chris Vivlamore

Getting queries about whether July 11 hearing in Md. is effort to stop #Thrashers sale. No, just procedural matter to end court case there.

http://twitter.com/#!/ajcthrashers
 

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well then you are going to LOVE the first 4 star hotel in winnipeg that True North is planning to build across portage from MTS centre.
the team is only a small part of a BIG plan for downtown Winnipeg.... wish i had a link...
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I believe it's going to be a five start hotel.
 
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King_Stannis said:
Seriously? I think the NHL brass hates the ASG. I don't think they are going to allow one obstructionist member of that group to derail the timeframe.

There is no local owner in Atlanta. If there were, wouldn't we have heard about how they were "shut out" by now? This is just an attempted moneygrab by a member of ASG.
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Don't get me wrong, the Thrashers are gone gone gone.

However, chances are Atlanta Spirit under oath about this makes everyone look bad. And I am sure Belkin has some emails that the NHL would never want made public regarding how it all went down.

The only question is if anyone is going to toss him some hush money, if not I do think he is going to make things awkward for all involved.
 
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wasn't Belkin the dude they bought out last year? On what grounds could he get an injunction
 
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manisback121 said:
Graduated with a concentrated minor in economics, with business and economics credits in sports and entertainment industries as this was initially what I wanted to do in school as an undergrad. Almost had a paper published for microeconomics class analyzing the evolving business model of the national hockey league. Reliance on the media and advertising industries has grown more in the recent 20 to 30 years than it had between the 50s and 70s with the slow integration of license to broadcast games.

Media broadcasting and consequently television dollars were instituted to assist the recovery from when Ore retired and the coming of the great one. Gretzky's publicity and such increased demand astronomically to where tv demand was so great that the teams in the league could no longer walk away from the cash and exposure when it was evident that gate revenue was no longer going to help turn a profit.
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Wow, so why are you commenting on a business plan you obviously know nothing about?

Education means nothing without knowledge of what you are speaking.
 
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Guardian17 said:
Any update from today's meeting?
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It appears the co-owners of Winnipeg’s new NHL franchise made quite an impression on the NHL’s executive committee, Tuesday.

Mark Chipman and David Thomson appeared to update the league’s most influential governors on their purchase and relocation of the Atlanta Thrashers.

“They had a compelling story to tell on why NHL hockey in Winnipeg could and would be successful,†NHL deputy commissioner Bill Daly told the Sun, Tuesday. “The members of the executive committee to a man were very impressed.â€
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http://www.torontosun.com/2011/06/07/nhl-brass-impressed-by-winnipeg--coowners
 
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RandR said:
More good news in case anyone still had doubts about the BoG vote.

Unless we find out in the next 2 weeks that Chipman and Thomson are actually accomplices being used by Dr Evil to take over the world, that vote is a fait accompli. :yo:
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Winnipeg already has a link set up under the teams section at NHL.com. It just redirects back to the home page, but that does indicate this vote is nothing more than a rubber stamp....
 
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RandR said:
More good news in case anyone still had doubts about the BoG vote.

Unless we find out in the next 2 weeks that Chipman and Thomson are actually accomplices being used by Dr Evil to take over the world, that vote is a fait accompli. :yo:
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Or Balsillie.
 
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Wpg Guy said:
I believe it's going to be a five start hotel.
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Where are you getting this information from? I haven't seen any real details released to the public.

To the previous psoter it wouldn't be the city's first 4 star hotel. That would be the Fairmont.

If it is a 5 star hotel it wouldn't even be the first 5 star hotel as they're building the city's first 5 star hotel by the new airport.
 
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