Prospect Info: Winnipeg Jets Prospects 2017-18

[Mud Turtle]

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I know the feeling - but what I've read, mostly here, about Gustafsson and Smith gives me some optimism. Both sound like they flew under the radar for various reasons. They have a chance to surprise.

I can't even find the words to express how deeply I dislike the whole concept of TD rentals. I reluctantly liked the Stastny deal because he was such a good fit and because the price was not quite as badly inflated as many TD pickups. I certainly enjoyed what he brought but it was all too short.

In hindsight though, it just confirms my original opinion. Erik Foley might play in the NHL this year and Joe Veleno was available when our traded pick came up. In another year or 2 he could be the 2C replacement for Little that we need - and he could be that for 10-12 years. Both of those players would be cheap for quite some time.

We really need to keep building through the draft. We need to let go of older players and replace them with picks and prospects. We need to maintain a flow of young players coming in on affordable contracts.

This. Exactly! I was all in favour of using Roslovic in that 2C spot.
We need that pipeline strong or else we could go through a very long wilderness again in a couple years when our older guys age out. I’m not at all against trading some older stars while they’re still near their prime and have big value. Trade them for guys like Roslovic who are young and just about to break out.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

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This. Exactly! I was all in favour of using Roslovic in that 2C spot.
We need that pipeline strong or else we could go through a very long wilderness again in a couple years when our older guys age out. I’m not at all against trading some older stars while they’re still near their prime and have big value. Trade them for guys like Roslovic who are young and just about to break out.

I have thought about trading Wheeler. Coming off the season he just had he would have tremendous value. But he is just so valuable to the Jets and so much the face of the org right now that I just can't see it. I believe his leadership contributed a lot to the season we just enjoyed. So I think we need to extend him and hope that he ages well.

That is just the kind of hard decision that Chevy needs to make regularly from now on. It won't always be that keeping the player is the smart thing to do. Chevy dodged a bullet with Ladd. We have to remind ourselves that it was Ladd who said no, not Chevy.

 

[HannuJ]

Agree with that last sentence. Right now it doesn't look like we will have that, as soon as next year - but we could have a pleasant surprise or 2. Who knows?

wait...Niku and Vesalainen aren't considered studs?
and Roslovic is technically still a prospect.
You're going to have a deep playoff team having up to two rookies on the back end plus Roslo and maybe, just maybe, Vesalainen (although i see him as a mid to late season call-up).
Plus you have Appleton knocking loudly at the door.
Lots of studs, man.
I'm more worried about 2-3 years from now. Things look stud-free, especially on D. i see no one internally that would fill a Buff void, and that frightens me.
considering that D-men take 1-3 years of post-draft seasoning before they're ready, i'd have liked to see a draft where most of our picks (other than 60) were for d-men.

 

[surixon]

Watched about half of that. McKenzie sure makes Glass look good!

Lol, yeah he benefits from playing with an elite playmaker. As mentioned he wont be a driver but he is feisty and finds the soft ice and can finish if given half a chance in tight. The organization needs more of those types.

 

[Whileee]

wait...Niku and Vesalainen aren't considered studs?
and Roslovic is technically still a prospect.
You're going to have a deep playoff team having up to two rookies on the back end plus Roslo and maybe, just maybe, Vesalainen (although i see him as a mid to late season call-up).
Plus you have Appleton knocking loudly at the door.
Lots of studs, man.
I'm more worried about 2-3 years from now. Things look stud-free, especially on D. i see no one internally that would fill a Buff void, and that frightens me.
considering that D-men take 1-3 years of post-draft seasoning before they're ready, i'd have liked to see a draft where most of our picks (other than 60) were for d-men.

I think Samberg has the chance to be a stud on D. He needs to develop, but you could see in the WJHC that he has the potential to be a minute munching beast.

 

[surixon]

I think Samberg has the chance to be a stud on D. He needs to develop, but you could see in the WJHC that he has the potential to be a minute munching beast.

He needs to add some offense, to this date he really hasn't shown to be proficient in scoring at really any level to date. Even if he doesn't add it he could carve out a role like Toby has the past few years as a defensive specialist.

 

[Whileee]

He needs to add some offense, to this date he really hasn't shown to be proficient in scoring at really any level to date. Even if he doesn't add it he could carve out a role like Toby has the past few years as a defensive specialist.

He scored reasonably well in high school, and had 4 points in 7 games in the WJHC, second among D on the team. I think he's got some offense, with a big shot, but his main strength is defensively.

I think he's a really good prospect. I think the Jets are very high on him, too.

 

[HannuJ]

He needs to add some offense, to this date he really hasn't shown to be proficient in scoring at really any level to date. Even if he doesn't add it he could carve out a role like Toby has the past few years as a defensive specialist.

basically, a solid #5 d-man i.e. NO STUD

 

[Whileee]

basically, a solid #5 d-man i.e. NO STUD

Disagree. I think he has top 4 potential. Samberg is real good.

 

[Joe Hallenback]

Samberg is a big time stud. His play at the world juniors was exceptional. Wait till this years World Juniors when everyone here will be salivating to get him in a Jets jersey

 

[surixon]

He scored reasonably well in high school, and had 4 points in 7 games in the WJHC, second among D on the team. I think he's got some offense, with a big shot, but his main strength is defensively.

I think he's a really good prospect. I think the Jets are very high on him, too.

Oh I agree I think he has top 4 upside but he will have to add offense to be a 2/3 where I think his ceiling is at this time. If he doesn't he looks like a number 4 defensive dmen ala Toby this past season.

He didn't score very well in the higher levels such as the USHL and hasn't at the NCAA to date.

 

[Whileee]

Samberg is a big time stud. His play at the world juniors was exceptional. Wait till this years World Juniors when everyone here will be salivating to get him in a Jets jersey

I agree. Last year was the appetizer, but I think he emerges this season as a top prospect. He's already really hard to play against, and I was really impressed with his poise and puck movement. I think he's closer to an NHL role than many expected at this stage.

 

[Whileee]

Oh I agree I think he has top 4 upside but he will have to add offense to be a 2/3 where I think his ceiling is at this time. If he doesn't he looks like a number 4 defensive dmen ala Toby this past season.

He didn't score very well in the higher levels such as the USHL and hasn't at the NCAA to date.

He just had a cup of coffee in the USHL, but really opened eyes. I think the offense will come when he gains confidence. He has a lot of tools, and good hockey IQ.

 

[surixon]

He just had a cup of coffee in the USHL, but really opened eyes. I think the offense will come when he gains confidence. He has a lot of tools, and good hockey IQ.

I don't disagree, but it is lagging behind his other skills and where other top d prospects have been at the same age.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

wait...Niku and Vesalainen aren't considered studs?
and Roslovic is technically still a prospect.
You're going to have a deep playoff team having up to two rookies on the back end plus Roslo and maybe, just maybe, Vesalainen (although i see him as a mid to late season call-up).
Plus you have Appleton knocking loudly at the door.
Lots of studs, man.
I'm more worried about 2-3 years from now. Things look stud-free, especially on D. i see no one internally that would fill a Buff void, and that frightens me.
considering that D-men take 1-3 years of post-draft seasoning before they're ready, i'd have liked to see a draft where most of our picks (other than 60) were for d-men.

Re-read my post. We have a couple of stud prospects now. We may not have any stud prospects as soon as next year - when those 2 graduate.

There is no official definition of a prospect. I consider Roslovic as graduated because I don't expect him to ever go back to the Moose. You can consider him a prospect as long as you like.

I wouldn't use the stud word for any of our other prospects at this time. Studs are sure fire top 6/top 4 prospects. After Niku and Vesalainen we have a lot of maybe's. Maybe Samberg and Gustafsson become studs. We can hope.

I'm worried about exactly the same thing but I see it as closer than 2-3 years from now.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Lol, yeah he benefits from playing with an elite playmaker. As mentioned he wont be a driver but he is feisty and finds the soft ice and can finish if given half a chance in tight. The organization needs more of those types.

I have to admit, he looks really good - but a lot of players look really good in their highlight reels. The way to find out if he really has what it takes is to sign him. Play him in the AHL and put him in a position to succeed - there and in the NHL when the time comes.

If it were up to me, I would sign him. I would have signed Gennaro and Stallard too. We don't have too many contracts and the cost of giving these kids a chance is minimal. We'll see what Chevy does.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

I think Samberg has the chance to be a stud on D. He needs to develop, but you could see in the WJHC that he has the potential to be a minute munching beast.

I agree. I'm quite optimistic. If you've seen my cap projections you might have noticed him penciled in to replace Kulikov in 2 years, when Kuli's contract expires.

But I'm not prepared to label him a stud yet. He has a long way to go. I'd like to see him do 1 more year of NCAA and then a year with the Moose.

 

[CorgisPer60]

i feel slighter dumber after reading the LWoH's summary. wow. what in-depth analysis.

It reads like a 3rd grader's homework, where they had to detail what they did for spring break.

 

[truck]

Lol, yeah he benefits from playing with an elite playmaker. As mentioned he wont be a driver but he is feisty and finds the soft ice and can finish if given half a chance in tight. The organization needs more of those types.

He was far less reliant on Glass the year before

 

[Sweech]

Samberg is a big time stud. His play at the world juniors was exceptional. Wait till this years World Juniors when everyone here will be salivating to get him in a Jets jersey

I think it’s his lack of point production that keeps people from really getting hyped about him.

 

[truck]

I think it’s his lack of point production that keeps people from really getting hyped about him.

More so the fact that he hasn't been dominant at the NCAA level. He was okay. The tools look right, but we haven't seen an extended run of dominant play.

 

[Whileee]

More so the fact that he hasn't been dominant at the NCAA level. He was okay. The tools look right, but we haven't seen an extended run of dominant play.

He's been very good for a freshman, playing an important defensive role. He just hadn't produced points, yet.

 

[MardyBum]

Samberg was buried in the depth chart and would have been in the USHL if not for a guy leaving school early. This coming year is the year to show something. He played very well in a limited role, especially for a guy jumping from high school hockey to the NCAA with only a cup of coffee in the USHL.

He was also great at the WJC and was their best all-around defenseman, and the guys who live and breathe USA hockey on here came away extremely impressed.

 

[untouchable21]

For sure, Samberg needs to develop the offensive side of his game, but I believe that will come as he gains some confidence and experience. This will be a big year for him and the WJC will be a spring board to a strong second half.

I would be happy if he ended up being Muzzin lite. No reason why he couldn’t reach that level of defenseman.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

He was far less reliant on Glass the year before

I was making a joke. He and Glass seem to work together very well.