Wings Select Lucas Raymond 4th Overall

[Henkka]

Just found out some data from the tournament and on Primary points/60 the tournament Top6 is:

Turcotte, 4.59
Cozens, 4.34
Raymond, 3.99
Hirvonen, 3.66
Zegras, 3.42
Lundell, 3.41

Think this is 5-on-5.

 

[Barry Amsterdam]

But he’s only 5’10 i can’t think of one elite winger who’s ever played in the nhl under 6’. Bust of a pick

 

[KasperTheGrittyGhost]

Well this kid showed us the complete package this tournament. It would have been fun to watch him carry the team but Sweden was just way too bad for that to happen.

I was really impressed by all parts of his game, mainly his smarts. He was money when the puck was on his stick.

He needs to get faster and stronger. He also needs to continue to attack with his feet like he did in this tournament. I feel like in the SHL he does not attack the same way.

Losing their coach and Wallinder+Grewe is really tough. Alnfeldt really didn’t impress me either.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Losing their coach and Wallinder+Grewe is really tough. Alnfeldt really didn’t impress me either.

Alnefeldt is a future backup. They shit the bed by not playing the next Swedish Olympic goalie in Wallstedt.

Grewe would have given that forward group some fire. Their 4th line was so f***ing lazy and soft. Bjerselius and Kvist had me ready to shout at my computer with their lack of intensity on the puck.

 

[Ezekial]

Imagine watching this video and saying he never attacks the net and he only plays the perimeter.

 

[Henkka]

Tableau Public
Final numbers from WJC.

Raymond ended up being the best player at ES expected Primary points per 60.

 

[lhsgolf19]

But according to some big trolls on here he was really disappointing lol

 

[raymond23]

I wish that when you ignored someone it didn't show replies to that person. Every thread sucks

 

[SwedeChristoffer]

Tableau Public
Final numbers from WJC.

Raymond ended up being the best player at ES expected Primary points per 60.

Being an advanced stats darling will probably follow him through his career, let's just hope he can amp up the actual production

Heh, I do feel bad for Raymond though, coaches don't make it easy on him. Holtz and Raymond haven't shown good chemistry for several years, yet they are still attached to the hip whenever they play for Team Sweden, and quite honestly that will probably follow them when they start playing for the mens team as well.
If that's not enough his coach in Frölunda is a very stubborn man who seems to be intent on making the Mursak + Raymond pairing last the entire season, even though that hasn't worked either.

According to reports he will most likely play on a line consisting of Henriksson - Mursak - Raymond in tomorrows game vs Luleå.
Hopefully the chemistry he has shown with Henriksson will make that line work better than when Hjalmarsson was there.

 

[steafo]

Does he play his off-wing (LW) in the SHL? I know Holtz has got a cannon but it was frustrating seeing them feed him at the point OVER AND OVER again. It was so telegraphed and not creative in the least. I know Raymond got his shots but I can't help but think he would've potted a couple more and added a couple assists playing his off-wing on the powerplay because he doesn't only look to shoot and he has a +shot IMO.

It's annoying because I'm sure he will be pigeon holed into playing RW I just hope the Wings brass is smart enough to place him on the LW side on the powerplays at least.

 

[SwedeChristoffer]

Does he play his off-wing (LW) in the SHL? I know Holtz has got a cannon but it was frustrating seeing them feed him at the point OVER AND OVER again. It was so telegraphed and not creative in the least. I know Raymond got his shots but I can't help but think he would've potted a couple more and added a couple assists playing his off-wing on the powerplay because he doesn't only look to shoot and he has a +shot IMO.

It's annoying because I'm sure he will be pigeon holed into playing RW I just hope the Wings brass is smart enough to place him on the LW side on the powerplays at least.

That Raymond plays PP on the right wall on Team Sweden is one of many stupid things the coaches of Team Sweden does, and is one of the main reason the PP looks bad. (Can't split Holtz and Raymond).

On Frölunda he has played either on the left wall or behind the net. IMO he has looked best when controlling the play from behind the net.

 

[TheOtherOne]

But he’s only 5’10 i can’t think of one elite winger who’s ever played in the nhl under 6’. Bust of a pick

He's just photoshopped by DRW brass in a conspiracy to make him drop in the draft. In reality he's 6'6".

 

[Barry Amsterdam]

I wish that when you ignored someone it didn't show replies to that person. Every thread sucks

Blocked me again? i thought we were friends

 

[Raffalski]

But he’s only 5’10 i can’t think of one elite winger who’s ever played in the nhl under 6’. Bust of a pick

Martin St. Louis was 5'8 and scored 1000 pts.

 

[golffuul]

Theo Fleury was pretty good
Both Datsyuk and Zetterberg were 5'11"
Patrick Kane is under 6 feet.

 

[Barry Amsterdam]

Martin St. Louis was 5'8 and scored 1000 pts.

i was poking fun at others who say those things. i wasn’t serious

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Ted Lindsay (RIP) was only 5'8" and could beat up most of the league.

 

[Henkka]

Ted Lindsay (RIP) was only 5'8" and could beat up most of the league.

The average size on that time was probably 5'8.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Ted Lindsay (RIP) was only 5'8" and could beat up most of the league.

Players back in his day were much smaller in stature, Not like they're now where they're much bigger.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Players back in his day were much smaller in stature, Not like they're now where they're much bigger.

Ted Lindsay would still have kicked their asses. What he lacked in size he made up for in ferocity. (That's what she said)

 

[Henkka]

Yzerman's forwards at Tampa Stanley Cup team:

Palat 5'11 - Point 5'10 - Kucherov 5'11
Killorn 6'1 - Cirelli 6'0 - Johnson 5'8
Goodrow 6'2 - Gourde 5'9 - Coleman 5'11
Maroon 6'2 - Paquette 6'1 - Stephens 5'11
(Verhaege 6'1)
Stamkos 6'1 (didn't play)

Average forward height on that Cup team was lightly less than 5'11. This was under NHL forward average.

Then when you look on that defence, everybody should understand, where the size will matter.

Hedman 6'6 - Shattenkirk 6'0
McDonagh 6'1 - Cernak 6'3
Sergachev 6'3 - Bogosian 6'2
Coburn 6'5 - Rutta 6'3

Vasilevskiy 6'3

Average height on back-end: 6'2½. These were over NHL defencemen/goalie averages.

 

[Cyborg Yzerberg]

Lmao this thread is a tire fire.

 

[ArmChairGM89]

What the hell is going on in here

 

[BinCookin]

Lmao this thread is a tire fire.

Seems we wanted to bring our board down to the level of current DRW games

 

[raymond23]

Lmao this thread is a tire fire.

I'm not sure why people still argue with a few of these posters. Its mind-blowing