WingsMJN2965
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Although maybe Kovy really likes Little Caesar’s Pizza.
Apparently nobody told him there's 30 other teams that can also put tomato sauce and cheese on a piece of cardboard.
Although maybe Kovy really likes Little Caesar’s Pizza.
For the record, I dont think he's coming to Detroit. I think he's negotiating with as many teams as possible in order to up his value.
The argument for coming to Detroit would be that they are not likely making the playoffs, meaning that at the TDL he could be traded to a legit contender.
For a UFA, best case scenario is signing with a legit contender (but that's easier said then done), 2nd best scenario is signing with a bad team that can trade you at the TDL, worst case is signing with a fringe team that may be a playoff team, but not good enough to do any damage, and not bad enough to trade you (think us in 2014).
At least by signing with Detroit, he has a high chance of being traded to a legit contender come TDL, especially if its 1 year with a modified NTC.
Don't you dare besmirch the legacy of the perfect Hot N Ready.Apparently nobody told him there's 30 other teams that can also put tomato sauce and cheese on a piece of cardboard.
Don't you dare besmirch the legacy of the perfect Hot N Ready.
There's a Pizza Jet's, yea that's what I call it because some idiot I used to work with called it that, by my work and I get it as a change of pace from time to time. FWIR, it's way better than Lil Cs, but I haven't f***ed with a hot n ready in forever.Maybe it was just the Little Caesars in my city, but they always tasted like s*** and were thin as hell. JETS all the way.
Isn't it?
Don't you dare besmirch the legacy of the perfect Hot N Ready.
How'd you know my nickname from college???
I hope you charged more than $5.
Back in my day, $5 bought you one foot of sandwich.
Not really. Making a claim and not being able to back it up is par for the internet course.
I hope you charged more than $5.
Back in my day, $5 bought you one foot of sandwich.
Think about it. How could a bunch of bad contracts hurt a true rebuild?
I am encouraged we still get in the room with how bad we are.
I don't see how it would. That is why I am asking you to explain your position.
Let's say Helm was signed to a reasonable contract, say 2.5/per. Let's say Ericsson was signed to a reasonable contract, 2.75/per, and Dekeyser was signed to a reasonable contract, and Nielsen, and Abdelkader. If these guys were all signed to reasonable deals, we could be trading them for more prospects and/or picks, helping the rebuild. It's all about asset management, and those are all basically unmovable contracts. They will be forced to be a Wing for the duration of their contracts, and no team will be willing to pick them up. Why? Their contracts. Helm is a useful player. Ericsson could bring depth to a team. Nielsen could really help a contending team as a 3C, yet nobody wants these players because their contracts are junk.
Instead of moving these guys for assets, we can't, and they will remain on the roster until their contracts expire, thus "enabling a true rebuild". Sure we can rebuild all while these guys remain on the roster, but it would speed things up, or at least bring in more potential future assets if they were movable.
Let's say Helm was signed to a reasonable contract, say 2.5/per. Let's say Ericsson was signed to a reasonable contract, 2.75/per, and Dekeyser was signed to a reasonable contract, and Nielsen, and Abdelkader. If these guys were all signed to reasonable deals, we could be trading them for more prospects and/or picks, helping the rebuild. It's all about asset management, and those are all basically unmovable contracts. They will be forced to be a Wing for the duration of their contracts, and no team will be willing to pick them up. Why? Their contracts. Helm is a useful player. Ericsson could bring depth to a team. Nielsen could really help a contending team as a 3C, yet nobody wants these players because their contracts are junk.
Instead of moving these guys for assets, we can't, and they will remain on the roster until their contracts expire, thus "enabling a true rebuild". Sure we can rebuild all while these guys remain on the roster, but it would speed things up, or at least bring in more potential future assets if they were movable.
I mean, at some point, you need to have a team that can play. And also, you show no clear idea of the market. Ericsson or an Ericsson expy at the time of his signing (a good top 4D, which is what he was at the time) would cost the 4.25M. A forward in the mold of Abby would cost 5M or more on the market.
And no, nobody would want Ericsson at 2.75M. Did you want a better hockey player in Trevor Daley for 3.3M? Nope.
Not that the Wings did right by signing them to those deals, but even if you magically could wave a wand and cut their deals in half, they still wouldn't be good assets. Helm and Abby would get some bites, but nobody wants Ericsson who's a mediocre defensive defenseman who can't score. DeKeyser would have value at Daley's contract probably (3.3M per) as an okay #4... but any more and nobody would want him.
And really, the Wings have 11 picks this year, double digit picks next year... They don't need to keep trading mid-range to awful players to get mid-range to awful prospects and low picks. A free 4th round pick or later is a lotto scratcher. It's a "hey, this is a cool thing if I happen upon it and not a way to improve your standing". They need to hit on the picks they have. They've got high quality draft picks (top 10s and 4 in the top 40) coming that they simply need to hit on.
The real value of 2nd-4th round picks is when you can get a proven NHL player for them (like 2 2nds for Nick Leddy or Johnny Boychuk or a late 1st, a 2nd and a 3rd for Dougie Hamilton). It isn't to amass five to six of them to just spray and pray with your scouting.
So if I offered you a free lotto scratcher, you'd decline?
Also, I'm quite aware of the market, thanks. Just because Holland signed Ericsson and Helm and Abby to their market price doesn't change the fact that maybe he should have never signed them in the first place? When Ericsson signed that deal, I was cringing. My first reaction was that's too much money. Same reaction with Helm, Abby, Dekeyser and Nielsen. Why has Holland never walked away from our homegrown players because the market price wasn't worth it?
Don't you dare besmirch the legacy of the perfect Hot N Ready.