No what I am saying is those 4 teams are thought to be contenders in this conference. Nowhere did I say Windsor should be in that group. How about this since you think it's such a narrative and you took this tone I will take those 4 teams and you get the rest of the western conference in the playoffs. I also wasn't comparing players I mentioned a few prior posts earlier the Spits had 8 draft eligible players going into this year now they only have 6. How many of those 6 get drafted? How many in the first 3 rounds?