Speculation: Willy Nilly XX

[Nithoniniel]

I would be thrilled to see 3 more years of Willy and then deal with his next contract at that time.... AM34 is good for 50 goals now.

Nothing wrong with a bridge contract. I've mentioned it before. It helps us short-term, hurts us medium-term, and might help us again long-term. A long-term deal now sets us up for a scenario where he'll get a huge third deal well into his thirties, which might not be desirable.

 

[Advanced stats]

Not saying it will happen today but leaning toward trading Willie.
Dubas already had a face to face with Willie. To me it seems they are still far apart from what both sides want. What’s the point of meeting with the agent? Both sides are firm in where they stand.

Hard to believe their far apart if they met yesterday and today after already meeting face to face late last week. Obviously some progress has been made. Trade is looking less likely by the day

 

[4thline]

Nothing wrong with a bridge contract. I've mentioned it before. It helps us short-term, hurts us medium-term, and might help us again long-term. A long-term deal now sets us up for a scenario where he'll get a huge third deal well into his thirties, which might not be desirable.

Blasphemy. All that matters is the higher cost in years four through six.

 

[Not My Tempo]

Nothing wrong with a bridge contract. I've mentioned it before. It helps us short-term, hurts us medium-term, and might help us again long-term. A long-term deal now sets us up for a scenario where he'll get a huge third deal well into his thirties, which might not be desirable.

Yea and tbh I’d rather have the 3 of Marner, Matthews and Nylander have staggered contracts anyways so we don’t have to give them big UFA raises all at once too. I always envisioned it as 7 years for Willy, 7 for Marner and then 8 for Matthews so they’d just expire one year after the other but a bridge accomplished the same thing

 

[Tavares to Marner]

Dubas going to the NYR game

I think he's gone boys

 

[Leafs at Knight]

Well the Oilers thought the same regarding Hall.

The Oilers and their gm think a lot of things. The majority of people said that was a bad trade at the time.


Everyday when I wake up I check my phone right away to see if Nylander has been signed, I've been let down for 2 months and counting now...

 

[Cor]

Dubas going to the NYR game

I think he's gone boys

I mean, the NYR don't play tonight. He was at their game last night, but so was Lewis Gross.

 

[Nithoniniel]

I mean, the NYR don't play tonight. He was at their game last night, but so was Lewis Gross.

Maybe he will go the Rangers card game, and use Willy as collateral?

 

[Menzinger]

 

[Gabriel426]

Hard to believe their far apart if they met yesterday and today after already meeting face to face late last week. Obviously some progress has been made. Trade is looking less likely by the day

I think someone mentioned it here, they are either close or really far apart.
Either way, I just want this to be over and done with bc the TO media will pound on this and make it a distraction if nothing else is happening with the Leafs, ie not losing, Maathews getting 20+minutes....

 

[Gabriel426]

Maybe he will go the Rangers card game, and use Willy as collateral?

Or maybe Dubas was just in the area and want to catch a free game

 

[Gabriel426]

Nothing wrong with a bridge contract. I've mentioned it before. It helps us short-term, hurts us medium-term, and might help us again long-term. A long-term deal now sets us up for a scenario where he'll get a huge third deal well into his thirties, which might not be desirable.

I agree completely. I am a strong believer that players coming off ELC should sign a team friendly bridge deal and make the big bucks on their third contract.

 

[Gary Nylund]

I think someone mentioned it here, they are either close or really far apart.
Either way, I just want this to be over and done with bc the TO media will pound on this and make it a distraction if nothing else is happening with the Leafs, ie not losing, Maathews getting 20+minutes....

I wouldn't worry about it too much. I agree that distractions aren't good but if it wasn't this, it would be something else.

 

[HamiltonNHL]

geezus H man chill out

we are 9 games into a 10 year run as true cup contenders.

exactly.

even if we lose fussy Nylander for the whole year it's not earth shattering bad news.

3 year bridge and willy see crappy PP time and 3/4 line time if he messes up.

 

[Gabriel426]

I wouldn't worry about it too much. I agree that distractions aren't good but if it wasn't this, it would be something else.

Agree completely, but having a contract dispute or sitting out.... is a bit different bc players might not mind in the beginning....but after a while it takes such a negative effect since some reporters ie Simmons might ask Kadri, do you think it is fair for Willie to sit out while you took a discount to stay with the team?

 

[Gary Nylund]

Agree completely, but having a contract dispute or sitting out.... is a bit different bc players might not mind in the beginning....but after a while it takes such a negative effect since some reporters ie Simmons might ask Kadri, do you think it is fair for Willie to sit out while you took a discount to stay with the team?

True enough. The mere thought of some idiot asking Kadri that makes me a little bit ill.

 

[Advanced stats]

I think someone mentioned it here, they are either close or really far apart.
Either way, I just want this to be over and done with bc the TO media will pound on this and make it a distraction if nothing else is happening with the Leafs, ie not losing, Maathews getting 20+minutes....

If their far apart they wouldn't be talking this much.

 

[Ziggdiezan]

I agree completely. I am a strong believer that players coming off ELC should sign a team friendly bridge deal and make the big bucks on their third contract.

The problem is the leafs might not be the team who can give Nylander big bucks after his bridge.

I dont see how the leafs can afford to resign Nylander after a bridge. There would have to be a serious increase in the cap or he would have to severely underperform as I think he is a lock for 70 points at least once in the next couple years and so will get paid a lot.

Have to consider a Rielly resign not far after any bridge deal so ya I really dont want a bridge option unless he is being traded.

 

[Gabriel426]

If their far apart they wouldn't be talking this much.

Don’t want to sound like I want Willie out, but anything is possible. Just want this to be over

 

[Carltons Cup]

Nothing wrong with a bridge contract. I've mentioned it before. It helps us short-term, hurts us medium-term, and might help us again long-term. A long-term deal now sets us up for a scenario where he'll get a huge third deal well into his thirties, which might not be desirable.

Essentially this is a "put up" or "shut-up" contract for Willy. He can put his money where his mouth is to see if he's worth more...

 

[mouser]

Its actually 10 million in four years... But its still more than I thought. Most of that is due to the NHLPA using their escrow to inflate the cap though.

Actually, you have it backwards. The NHLPA has been deflating the cap in recent years by winding down their use of the escalator. If they had instead used the default escalator the cap would be around $82m this season.

Escrow doesn't inflate or deflate the cap itself, revenue from the prior year determines the cap. And the escalator doesn't compound itself year to year.

 

[Alerion]

There's a bunch of good quotes in there, but this one stood out to me.

I don’t begrudge an RFA or a player for trying to get what he thinks he is worth, but thinking pragmatically, they are fighting an uphill battle in a situation where the system is stacked against you. You are not going to get $6 million on a two-year deal. You are not going to get $7-8 million on a six-year deal. You better find out what number you can live with on a short-term deal, get back to work, score some goals, get your salary arb rights, and stick it right up the you-know-what of the Toronto Maple Leafs when the system favours you more than it favours the club.

 

[MyBudJT]

Actually, you have it backwards. The NHLPA has been deflating the cap in recent years by winding down their use of the escalator. If they had instead used the default escalator the cap would be around $82m this season.

Escrow doesn't inflate or deflate the cap itself, revenue from the prior year determines the cap. And the escalator doesn't compound itself year to year.

This past year after the Vegas expansion you're right... But I was generalizing since the Toews/Kane contracts...

 

[mouser]

This past year after the Vegas expansion you're right... But I was generalizing since the Toews/Kane contracts...

Doesn’t make a difference. The escaltor doesn’t change growth rates over multiple year periods. If the PA had used 0% every year since Kane/Toews or 5% every year the total cap growth over that period would be almost identical.

 

[PuckMagi]

What if we sign Nylander, make him 3rd line center, and trade Kadri for a defender?

I like Kadri, but I like Nylander more.