Speculation: Will Treliving Show Bennett the Money?

DFF

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When Bennett-Backlund-Frolik was our second line, Bennett was better than Frolik in that role, aside from the occasional typical rookie mistake in the D zone.

. His actual worth right now is a 4+ million dollar player.

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Not saying Bennett is not going to be a good player but he had a bad year and done nothing to deserve what you want to give to him.
 
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Anglesmith

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When Bennett-Backlund-Frolik was our second line, Bennett was better than Frolik in that role, aside from the occasional typical rookie mistake in the D zone.

Bennett has struggled when centered by Granlund or when centering Chiasson/Brouwer, but I have seen enough with Backlund, Gaudreau, Frolik, even Colborne to think that if he doesn't improve from where he was last year, he is a strong middle six forward with decent linemates. Not paying him strictly because he struggled centering a third line is missing the forest for the trees. He was a 2LW at age 18, at age 19 he was a defensively solid 2LW, and now he starting to become a defensively strong center and elite penalty killer. That is all based on past performance, not future. He probably would have put up 25 / 25 if he were our 2LW/RW with Backlund and Tkachuk last year, does anyone seriously think otherwise? i mean I wouldn't put it past him to have hit 30/30 with those two.

Bennett is a natural center and is being developed as one on a team with two strong centers, so his stats took a hit. His actual worth right now is a 4+ million dollar player.

Getting him to a Klefbom deal is not a risk. Even statistically he has around 1.4 P/60 at even strength on his career, which is right in line with guys like Silfverberg and Frolik.

Bennett was not tangibly better than Matt Stajan last year, to the extent that Bennett was on the fourth line and Stajan on the third line after a while. Matt Stajan is considered overpaid at just over $3M. So to say that Bennett's value right at the moment is somehow $4M is completely ridiculous. He does not bring what you need to get out of a $4M centre.

If you mean that he has potential to be worth that much, then say that.
 

OvermanKingGainer

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Bennett was not tangibly better than Matt Stajan last year, to the extent that Bennett was on the fourth line and Stajan on the third line after a while. Matt Stajan is considered overpaid at just over $3M. So to say that Bennett's value right at the moment is somehow $4M is completely ridiculous. He does not bring what you need to get out of a $4M centre.

If you mean that he has potential to be worth that much, then say that.

As a 2nd Line Wing, Bennett is worth 4 million. He's not playing that role, but if we signed him to significant term at that cap hit, there's no risk of him being unable to perform at that level. If he establishes himself as a 2C or 1C, 4.0M AAV is an underpayment.

And as for "Bennett was on the 4th line for a while" - so was Monahan. Temporarily.
 

Anglesmith

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As a 2nd Line Wing, Bennett is worth 4 million. He's not playing that role, but if we signed him to significant term at that cap hit, there's no risk of him being unable to perform at that level. If he establishes himself as a 2C or 1C, 4.0M AAV is an underpayment.

And as for "Bennett was on the 4th line for a while" - so was Monahan. Temporarily.

And if Monahan was signing his contract right after a season of playing himself onto the fourth line, he'd be paid accordingly, and we'd all think a lot less of him.

Regardless, I didn't see Bennett as effective on the wing last year at all. In his rookie season, he had some good stretches, and some less effective ones, but last year he was actually more noticeable at centre. Perhaps a system thing. Regardless, he's far from having proven that he can be an impact player on the wing, as you are claiming.
 

Tkachuk Norris

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Bennett would be very lucky to get more then 2.5 per on a 2 year deal, Ferland only got 1.75 and was arguably better. Kucherov got 3x3.5 or something last year. What does he expect?
 

InfinityIggy

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Not at all worried about how 'Long' it's taking for him to sign.

It's to Trelivings advantage to only really accelerate talks closer to the start of the season. Bennett isn't in a position where he can afford to sit out training camp or anything like that.
 

GAMO1992

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yeah at this point, anything over 3M is an absolute pipe dream for Bennett.
hopefully a deal does get done sooner rather than later(which I believe it will)
but Bennett hasn't played enough to earn anything over 3M unless you are willing to sign him for max term.
 

Zirakzigil

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Im thinking this has to do more with length than price. Flames are probably pushing for 3 years and Bennett is probably wanting just 1. They will figure it out at some point. There is no benefit for him to threaten to miss training camp.
 

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Im thinking this has to do more with length than price. Flames are probably pushing for 3 years and Bennett is probably wanting just 1. They will figure it out at some point. There is no benefit for him to threaten to miss training camp.

More of a reason that they should both just meet in the middle with a 2 year deal.
 

Mr Snrub

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Three years is the maximum number of years they can get before Bennett leaves RFA status, correct? That's absolutely what they should go for, allows them to buy the largest number of UFA years after the bridge deal expires if Bennett becomes the sort of player you want on your team for a long time.
 

Zirakzigil

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More of a reason that they should both just meet in the middle with a 2 year deal.

Not that simple though. Flames could be offering 3x3 for example and Bennett could be countering with 3mil for 1 year. Im guessing Bennett is asking for the same amount on a 1 year deal.
 

Tkachuk Norris

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3 is Dougie and TJ but Brouwer/Stone/Hamonic/Frolik expire.

3 makes sense. 3 year 2.75/3 million. Good luck getting more.
 

djpatm

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As a 2nd Line Wing, Bennett is worth 4 million. He's not playing that role, but if we signed him to significant term at that cap hit, there's no risk of him being unable to perform at that level. If he establishes himself as a 2C or 1C, 4.0M AAV is an underpayment.

And as for "Bennett was on the 4th line for a while" - so was Monahan. Temporarily.

Really?
Cause he wasn't able to fulfill that role last year? What changed?

<40 points is not good enough for the 2nd line on a contending team.
 

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