the paisanos guy
the hell do i know about cooking a shirt?
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Kyle Turris in the 2012-2013 playoffs
10gp-6g-3a-9pts
Im guessing you also forget that some of those big goals were pretty big ones too eh.....?
For sure you could make a case for it. Hes started off better than Turris did in Arizona, that much is true.
Bert (the guy I quoted) isnt saying that though. Not at all.... He seems to think Suzuki is already an upper echelon #1C, without him actually ever having played the role for a full season...
People need to stop acting like its such a huge insult to be compared with peak Kyle Turris. Once the nature boy starts getting all of the extra attention from the opposing teams as the Habs #1C, and then he still continues to produce at a peak Turris level or greater, then we can start the discussion on whether or not hes eclipsed a peak Kyle Turris.......
In 2014-2015 Turris was playing a sound defensive game, and produced like a #1C. And imo its laughable to suggest that its already a foregone conclusion that Suzuki will pass Turris's peak. While its totally possible, its anything but a given.
Here is the #1C for every team in the league during Kyle's peak season in 2014-2015 (and also their #2C if he had better stats than Turris).
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RANK PLAYER GP G A PTS 1 John Tavares 82 38 48 86 2 Sidney Crosby 77 28 56 84 3 Nicklas Backstrom 82 18 60 78 4 Tyler Seguin 71 37 40 77 5 Claude Giroux 81 25 48 73 6 Henrik Sedin 82 18 55 73 7 Steven Stamkos 82 43 29 72 8 Tyler Johnson 77 29 43 72 9 Ryan Johansen 82 26 45 71 10 Evgeni Malkin 69 28 42 70 11 Ryan Getzlaf 77 25 45 70 12 Joe Pavelski 82 37 33 70 13 Logan Couture 82 27 40 67 14 Henrik Zetterberg 77 17 49 66 15 Jonathan Toews 81 28 38 66 16 Pavel Datsyuk 63 26 39 65 17 Joe Thornton 78 16 49 65 18 Kyle Turris 82 24 40 64 19 Anze Kopitar 79 16 48 64 20 Jason Spezza 82 17 45 62 21 Jeff Carter 82 28 34 62 22 Derick Brassard 80 19 41 60 23 Ryan Nugent-Hopkins 76 24 32 56 24 Patrice Bergeron 81 23 32 55 25 Matt Duchene 82 21 34 55 26 Ryan O'Reilly 82 17 38 55 27 Eric Staal 77 23 31 54 28 Bryan Little 70 24 28 52 29 Tyler Bozak 82 23 26 49 30 Mikko Koivu 80 14 34 48 31 Paul Stastny 74 16 30 46 32 Nick Bjugstad 72 24 19 43 33 Adam Henrique 75 16 27 43 34 Sam Gagner 81 15 26 41 35 Zemgus Girgensons 61 15 15 30
I think you're contradicting yourself. If you think Suzuki will be as good for most seasons as peak Turris, then that would put him at a level where we could comfortably say top 20 C, no? People's issues with a player comparison to Kyle Turris is that Turris' career has been dogged by wildly inconsistent effort. I don't see that happening with Suzuki.