Will Mark Giordano make the Hockey Hall of Fame?

[super6646]

Due to recent implications, I have a strong belief that he should make the hall of fame. Thats just me though.

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[hamzarocks]

He should not based on precedents beside Lowe and a few weaker guys right now. If he can bounce back and have another strong couple of years than I think he would be a fair option. If he gets another top 10 Norris placements he should have 600+ points. At that point he would be better than neidermayer most likley and would be a fair induction

 

[Del Preston]

He should not based on precedents beside Lowe and a few weaker guys right now. If he can bounce back and have another strong couple of years than I think he would be a fair option. If he gets another top 10 Norris placements he should have 600+ points. At that point he would be better than neidermayer most likley and would be a fair induction

Wait what?

 

[BrindamoursNose]

If Lowe got in, then my friend Bunky from down the street can get in

 

[Steven Toast]

I think he should get in. His lacking postseason totals could hinder him though.

 

[CanadienShark]

No. He's closer to a Marleau type without the crazy games played.

 

[Regal]

I don't think so. He's been a high level defenseman since 13-14, but outside of his Norris win hasn't really been considered in that truly elite top 5 in the league level that I think he would need to get in on what is likely going to be a shorter prime due to his late breakout. I think he would be good enough to get in if he had a really long prime or had a high level of playoff success, but unless Calgary turns it on and/or he ages extremely well, those are unlikely. I know the Lowe induction is bad and Giordano is a clearly better player, but he's a special case who got in based on his cups and likely his friendships as well.

 

[hamzarocks]

Wait what?

He would have 6 top 10 finishes including a 1st place same as neidermayer. Would have a great ppg as well for a defenseman

 

[Regal]

He would have 6 top 10 finishes including a 1st place same as neidermayer. Would have a great ppg as well for a defenseman

Top 10s are not all the same. Niedermayer finished runner up twice (to Lidstrom). Giordano has never been higher than 6th outside of his Norris. Niedermayer also has a much, much better playoff career, including a Conn Smythe, and quite a few more seasons as a good, but not great player outside of his best.

 

[NyQuil]

How many career wins does he have?

Apparently this is a thing now.

Lowe, now 61, played in a combined 1,468 regular season and Stanley Cup playoff contests and won 801 of them. Those 801 wins, while a team stat, are tied for 10th all-time with now fellow Hall of Famer Scott Niedermayer, according to Elias Sports Bureau.

Jarome Iginla, Doug Wilson, Kevin Lowe among Hockey Hall of Fame's class of 2020 - TSN.ca

 

[Del Preston]

He would have 6 top 10 finishes including a 1st place same as neidermayer. Would have a great ppg as well for a defenseman

838 total points, 4x Cup Champion, 1 Conn Smythe, and 1 Norris Trophy, not to mention junior and international success vs possibly 600 points, 1 Norris Trophy, and 13 career playoff games

There's no comparison between these two players, and that's not a criticism of Giordano.

 

[Hockey Outsider]

I recently posted this in another thread - there are some definite parallels between Randy Carlyle and Mark Giordano.

Usually when a player wins the Norris trophy, they also have a number of close calls, even if they never actually win again (ie Chris Pronger, Red Kelly, Scott Niedermayer, Zdeno Chara - also true for recent winners like Victor Hedman, Brent Burns, Drew Doughty, etc).

The problem with Mark Giordano is he never came anywhere close to contending for the Norris trophy again. He finished a distant 6th in 2015 (though he almost certainly would have been higher if not for his injury), 8th in 2017, and that's been it. Similarly, Randy Carlyle won a Norris trophy (which he probably didn't deserve) and never again came close to contending.

Both players have pretty thin playoff resumes. Not that it's his fault, but Giordano has won a total of one playoff game in his 14 year career. That makes Carlyle look like Denis Potvin in comparison - but Carlyle also has a relatively weak playoff resume (again, not that it's entirely his fault, but he never made it out of the second round, except as a rookie when he missed a number of games).

Neither player has overwhelming career totals (we know - from recent inductions of Housley, Ciccarelli, Andreychuk, etc - that the Hall likes "compilers").

So, there are clear parallels between Randy Carlyle and Mark Giordano - and I'd wager that neither of them make the Hall.

 

[eli4spetterss0n]

Should he? No. Will he? Depends on how his coaching/managing career goes.

 

[InfinityIggy]

Im gonna say no, but depending on how the rest of his career goes.. a cup Ring as Captain would give him a strong argument.

 

[CraigsList]

I am going to go with no, only because he became elite a little too late.

 

[TomasHertlsRooster]

How many career wins does he have?

Apparently this is a thing now.



Jarome Iginla, Doug Wilson, Kevin Lowe among Hockey Hall of Fame's class of 2020 - TSN.ca

I'm pretty sure Paul Martin was near the top of the league over some decade-ish long sample that a Sharks broadcast cherry picked at some point. Too bad he doesn't have a Cup or he'd be a shoe in too.

 

[Bounces R Way]

Not with his current resume no. As far as I'm aware his career isn't over just yet though. Needs some playoff success to really be considered.

 

[ESH]

I recently posted this in another thread - there are some definite parallels between Randy Carlyle and Mark Giordano.

Usually when a player wins the Norris trophy, they also have a number of close calls, even if they never actually win again (ie Chris Pronger, Red Kelly, Scott Niedermayer, Zdeno Chara - also true for recent winners like Victor Hedman, Brent Burns, Drew Doughty, etc).

The problem with Mark Giordano is he never came anywhere close to contending for the Norris trophy again. He finished a distant 6th in 2015 (though he almost certainly would have been higher if not for his injury), 8th in 2017, and that's been it. Similarly, Randy Carlyle won a Norris trophy (which he probably didn't deserve) and never again came close to contending.

Both players have pretty thin playoff resumes. Not that it's his fault, but Giordano has won a total of one playoff game in his 14 year career. That makes Carlyle look like Denis Potvin in comparison - but Carlyle also has a relatively weak playoff resume (again, not that it's entirely his fault, but he never made it out of the second round, except as a rookie when he missed a number of games).

Neither player has overwhelming career totals (we know - from recent inductions of Housley, Ciccarelli, Andreychuk, etc - that the Hall likes "compilers").

So, there are clear parallels between Randy Carlyle and Mark Giordano - and I'd wager that neither of them make the Hall.

I think it’s worth noting that Giordano was the front runner for the Norris in 2015 before his injury.

 

[McDavidCrushedLarkin]

Hell no

 

[Northern Avs Fan]

My initial thought is no, but I mean they did just let Kevin Lowe in, and I’d say Gio is better than him.

He just didn’t have the luxury of playing on a stacked team.