Will Marian Hossa make the hall of fame?

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  1. cowboy82nd

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    Funny, I didn't see the jock strap there. Did someone borrow it?
     
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    There's definitely worse players than Hossa in the HHoF. He'll get in.
     
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    With all due respect to Peter Sykora, 2015 is not the run you want to pick when debating which Blackhawks player was best. That one is probably the only cup run (or hell, the only deep playoff run) where everybody with functioning eyeballs picked the same guy as the Blackhawks best player.
     
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    How old was Messier and other former oilers wenn they won the cup in New York in 1994 ? If the "Kane Toews Kieth Seabrook" core of Chicago dynasty is so talented they should have no problem to win another cup.
     
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    Hope he doesnt just because that obvious cap circumvention left a sour taste.
     
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    I don t know Duncan Kieth is good defensman but for me he was never such a dominant player like Brian Leech or Chris Pronger. It is also much easier to play behind such defensive strong offensive line. I have diferent view on this.
     
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    Hossa was too good to be forgotten. He needs to be enshrined in the Hall.
     
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    The topic of this thread is whether Hossa makes the HOF .. in which the answer from this poster is yes.
    Your opinion on the Hawk's accepted core of the fab 4 being less than stellar is just that ... your opinion. I doubt Seabs, Keith, Toews nor Kaner will lose any sleep over it. ;)
     
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    Let others have said anyone that's reached 500 goals should be in it. 3 cups don't hurt either.
     
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    Will he. ?

    Should he. Absolutely
     
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    Have a look at the Complete Roster for Hockey Hall-of-Fame players. There are- what? over 260 male players already inducted. Marian Hossa is comfortably superior to more than half-of-'em, at least.

    He's in. Whether or not he'll be First Ballot should be the only suspense.
     
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    Seems you might have missed some context here.....I think Hossa is absolutely a worthy candidate and I believe and hope he gets in first ballot. I was responding to a pretty bad argument that inferred his induction would be "lowering the floor" further. He's going to get inducted because he should get inducted.

    Well first, how have they "error-d?" Do you know their mandate? Do you know their induction criteria? This is such a common refrain that I'm betting very few give it any deeper thought. Just throw out Clark Gillies or Joe Nieuwendyke and scoff at the stupidity of the committee, right?

    The person I originally responded to claimed that inducting Hossa would be tantamount to "lowering the floor," and that no one was going to tell their kids about the times they got to watch Hossa play hockey. Do you agree with that? I certainly don't.

    Of course inducting "worse" players works in Hossa's favor. Even if the committee had a player who represented their cut-off between induction and refusal, Hossa MORE than eclipses that player. Take a look. There have been way more inductees that Hossa competes with on a cumulative career level than there are guys who blow his career out of the water. This "purity of the hall" movement among some fans feels weird, especially given who makes up the majority of player inductees. It's a myth....a nonsensical myth....that only the uber elite should be worthy. Where is that established, and my god, how boring would the Hall be?
     
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    Ah I must have missed that part. Ya that’s ridiculous. Just further shows how underrated Hossa is.
     
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    I mean, it kind of is. They let anyone in
     
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    Duncan keith is the ****ing reason why dmen like luke schenn are obsolete. Duncan keith changed the modern game more than those other dmen . Try dump and chase against duncan keith and see what happens.
     
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    Of the 1995-2000 draft

    Joe Thorton
    Chara
    Iginla
    Luongo
    Sedin
    Sedin
    Datsyuk
    Lundqvist
    Hossa
    Marleau
    Zetterberg
    Doan
    Lecavalier
    Richard
    Ryan Miller

    That 6 draft, if they get 2 players in average by draft year that would be around 12 of those, it is not easy to put more than 8 of those above Hossa, that leave him a lot of room.

    Being in the top 10 in regular scoring between 1995 to now, +245 in talk of Selke wingers, 3 cups, #6 in playoff scoring between 1995 to now only behind Crosby, Sakic, Forsberg, Malkin, Lidstrom all playoff elite hall of farmer themselve.

    +Strong international play Should be easy in.

    From hockey reference:
    Thru 19 YearsAdjusted Point Shares (Best to Worst)
    Player12345678910111213141516171819
    Marian Hossa12.411.110.810.29.99.49.08.68.68.57.77.27.07.07.05.84.03.7-0.1
    Mark Messier95.011.611.310.19.69.29.29.19.08.28.07.26.86.86.66.05.13.93.60.9
    Brendan Shanahan94.911.610.510.510.510.39.38.98.97.97.57.26.96.76.76.15.95.73.50.3
    Luc Robitaille94.111.610.310.19.69.69.49.29.28.47.97.97.06.46.15.95.34.42.71.8
    Daniel Alfredsson93.612.311.510.410.09.39.28.17.97.77.57.47.15.85.65.34.53.22.7
    Joe Thornton93.313.312.212.111.910.09.69.58.88.48.37.97.87.57.26.55.74.34.3-0.5
    Pierre Turgeon93.211.710.29.89.59.49.19.08.88.78.17.97.66.95.34.74.64.32.00.8
    Mike Modano93.010.710.710.210.29.79.69.58.48.07.97.26.85.85.75.75.55.43.43.1
    Mats Sundin93.011.010.310.39.89.29.19.08.98.98.98.78.48.27.57.36.23.92.4
    Stan Mikita92.211.210.69.89.89.68.98.18.18.17.87.87.56.46.14.84.44.01.50.0
    Mark Recchi91.810.710.79.79.49.48.98.78.28.17.87.46.66.45.65.24.84.43.8-0.3
     

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