NBA Will Giannis Antetokounmpo leave the Bucks in free agency?

[Voight]

 

[Centrum Hockey]

If he doesn't sign an extension this off-season, the Bucks should absolutely trade him, right?

Giannis to Golden State for Wiggins + 2020 1st + additional picks

Wiggins and picks would not be a great trade for Milwaukee. It would be a worse package than OKC and NO got from the LA teams last year. SGA and Brandon Ingram are both younger and have a higher potential than Wiggins.

 

[Perennial]

Wiggins and picks would not be a great trade for Milwaukee. It would be a worse package than OKC and NO got from the LA teams last year. SGA and Brandon Ingram are both younger and have a higher potential than Wiggins.

Yes, but the 2020 1st is currently 2nd overall...

The picks included in those other deals aren't expected to be as high

 

[Suiteness]

So what is driving this Giannis to Toronto talk? That Masai is African?

 

[Voight]

Sho what is driving this Giannis to Toronto talk? That Masai is African?

He and Giannis are fairly close, plus as someone who didn't grow up in the US its a lot "easier" for him to move up north. & as the Raps proved this year, Ujiri is insanely good at building a team and keeps the pipeline running with little known draft picks + UDFA's. Hes willing to make ballsy moves if its worth it.

Problem with most stars is they lived in the US their entire life and are accustomed to how things are there, so when they go to Toronto its a big adjustment. Giannis spent most of his life across the pond.

 

[Deficient Mode]

Yes, but the 2020 1st is currently 2nd overall...

The picks included in those other deals aren't expected to be as high

2020 draft is terrible for top end talent though. There could be star players to come out of this draft, but everyone at the top is a massive project and unlikely to get there. Wiggins has massive negative value given his contract and bad play. IMO the Bucks should make at least one last push with a new PG if Giannis refuses to re-sign. Their championship odds for next season alone would be more than the assets they'd get from trading Giannis would improve their championship odds long-term.

 

[Perennial]

2020 draft is terrible for top end talent though. There could be star players to come out of this draft, but everyone at the top is a massive project and unlikely to get there. Wiggins has massive negative value given his contract and bad play. IMO the Bucks should make at least one last push with a new PG if Giannis refuses to re-sign. Their championship odds for next season alone would be more than the assets they'd get from trading Giannis would improve their championship odds long-term.

Wiggins is just there to balance out the salaries...

IMO, if Giannis isn't willing to sign an extension, the Bucks should absolutely trade him

 

[Voight]

Wiggins is just there to balance out the salaries...

IMO, if Giannis isn't willing to sign an extension, the Bucks should absolutely trade him

They should but they won't, just like the Cavs wouldn't trade LBJ in 2010. Even 1 year of Giannis could get them a massive haul. Think of the haul PG (an inferior player) got despite him being under contract for only 2 seasons.

 

[Deficient Mode]

Wiggins is just there to balance out the salaries...

IMO, if Giannis isn't willing to sign an extension, the Bucks should absolutely trade him

Yes, he is, but that doesn't mean that the Bucks really want to pay his salary either even if they aren't going to be doing anything if Giannis leaves.

I'm not convinced that the boatload of picks provides more championship probability than a single year of an MVP level player.

 

[Islay1989]

You do what the Raps did. Get/keep your superstar even if it means only one run at it.

 

[DangleCity]

He and Giannis are fairly close, plus as someone who didn't grow up in the US its a lot "easier" for him to move up north. & as the Raps proved this year, Ujiri is insanely good at building a team and keeps the pipeline running with little known draft picks + UDFA's. Hes willing to make ballsy moves if its worth it.

Problem with most stars is they lived in the US their entire life and are accustomed to how things are there, so when they go to Toronto its a big adjustment. Giannis spent most of his life across the pond.

Besides weather, is it really a big adjustment to live in Toronto? Its a modern city just like an other big city in the US

 

[Voight]

Besides weather, is it really a big adjustment to live in Toronto? Its a modern city just like an other big city in the US

Of course it is, but a lot of NBA players don't realize that or see it the same way.

What also helps is that all players, even the Raptors guys, get paid in USD so when they convert it to CDN they end up getting more bang for their buck.

 

[DangleCity]

Of course it is, but a lot of NBA players don't realize that or see it the same way.

What also helps is that all players, even the Raptors guys, get paid in USD so when they convert it to CDN they end up getting more bang for their buck.

Its a honest question. I dont know because Ive never been to Toronto.


They may get more "bang for their buck" but they also pay a boat load more taxes, so the money is the same at the end of the day.

 

[Voight]

Its a honest question. I dont know because Ive never been to Toronto.


They may get more "bang for their buck" but they also pay a boat load more taxes, so the money is the same at the end of the day.

They do, however they only get taxed for 41 games a year / what they make per game. The other 41 games depend on the so called jock tax in other states.

Also worth noting California (with 4 NBA teams) and NY (with 2 teams) also have very high taxes. But LA and NYC are obviously different animals and seen as being worth the extra tax because of lifestyle and off court opporunities.

IIRC the first year of Curry's super max out of the 40 something million in salary he took home between 15-22 after taxes.

 

[Centrum Hockey]

They do, however they only get taxed for 41 games a year / what they make per game. The other 41 games depend on the so called jock tax in other states.

Also worth noting California (with 4 NBA teams) and NY (with 2 teams) also have very high taxes. But LA and NYC are obviously different animals and seen as being worth the extra tax because of lifestyle and off court opporunities.

IIRC the first year of Curry's super max out of the 40 something million in salary he took home between 15-22 after taxes.

Toronto seems like it is Slowly becoming a second tier city for NBA players on the same level of Philly,Boston Chicago, Dallas ,Houston city's not on the same level as LA, NY or Miami but not ruthlessly mocked by players around the league like Sacramento, Cleveland, Memphis, Milwaukee, New Orleans.

 

[John Price]

he will join his brother in LA

A team with Lebron, Davis and Giannis would be unbeatable

 

[Scandale du Jour]

he will join his brother in LA

A team with Lebron, Davis and Giannis would be unbeatable

Will the Lakers have the max slot to do it?