Why so many threads of late bashing Crosby by AO supporters?

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Pepper

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I think it's a backlash to the massive overhyping by Crosby fanboys who have played down every other young prospect at some point.

The overhyping of Crsoby has been so ridiculous that some people actually want to see him fail just because of that.
 

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Sammy said:
:cry: :cry: :cry:
Yeah , that'l show them. A bunch of whiny little fanboys on a message board will be stroking themselves but thats about it.
But maybe your right. The media will crater before our very eyes & start paying homage to poor Mr. Ovechkin.
You'd think that the media is stealing from Ovechkin & his fanboys by the ridiculouness of all this.
Btw, living in "Kerry Land" exactly what Cdn media do you get?


All the stupid Pierre McGuire quotes one can handle.
 

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Whos SB??

Go catch LALA. Was a late night at the MCI center last night and way to many beers. It's been a long time since I woke up drunker then when I went to bed. It was a good game though. I don't know if it was the Blue Jackets being flat or that the defense played half way decent for Washington (probably a combination). But was pleasently surprised with their play last night. Just hope they (CAPS) at least earn some respect throughout the season even if they finish in the cellar.
 

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For someone who has done nothing but hype Crosby (such as defending his laughable ranking on THN's Top 50 list) you have little room to be throwing around insults or trying to downplay everything Ovechkin does.

Well, Sid is tied for 44th in League scoring after his "bad game" and Ovechkin is tied for last in assists. :D

Just Kidding! (Had to add that for the hardcore anti-Crosbyites)
 

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Mothra said:
exactly!!!! Thats why we have the internet....well, that and porn


You just HAD to bring Pornography into it Mothra. Which of course forces me to reluctantly admit that Crosby is definately NOT the most talented 18 year old on the planet.
 

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Can't AO's merits stand on their own without some supporters of his constantly bringing Crosby into the equation? This whole Crosby bashing trend of late shows litte more than how small some supporters of AO actually are.

I have a question: Since when did a single Pens and/or Crosby fans ever feel the need to put AO down to prop Crosby up?

To be honest. There are quite a few Crosby fans here that fit your description perfectly and you know this too.
 

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Which of course forces me to reluctantly admit that Crosby is definately NOT the most talented 18 year old on the planet.
Go on.
 

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Fredrik said:
To be honest. There are quite a few Crosby fans here that fit your description perfectly and you know this too.


I do? Links? There may have been one or two sprinkled in the odd thread over the past couple of years, but I do not really recall it anywhere near as prevelant - though there have been ones who have been ridiculous in the hero worship of the kid I do not recall any perverse need to tear AO or anyone else down very often at all if ever.
 

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I don't buy that there's an excess of Crosby hype on hfboards.Not even close.
However the antihype is unbelievable-totally out of touch with reality.

I will say that the media hype is a little excessive but it's starting to settle
and actually the hockey media is giving quite a bit of coverage to other
rookies.I would even venture to say that Ovechkin is probably getting
quite a bit of spin off from the Crosby hype.Remember rookies usually
don't garner much attention.Anyway more is more.

Just want to say something about Crosby and Ovechkin:just my opinion
but I think we're entering a remarkable era where we are going to see
2 great players go head to head in what could be the best indivdual
rivalry in hockey history.Both are very special talents-lets enjoy watching
them.
 

Pepper

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pei fan said:
I don't buy that there's an excess of Crosby hype on hfboards.Not even close.
However the antihype is unbelievable-totally out of touch with reality.

Considering you have been one of the biggest hypers of Crosby on this board, I find your claim just a tad ridiculous.
 

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Pepper said:
Considering you have been one of the biggest hypers of Crosby on this board, I find your claim just a tad ridiculous.

Concur.

And I'll add, I have nothing against Crosby, either as a player or person.

However, I think the hype and media attention Crosby gets over everything else is disgusting.
 

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Jaded-Fan said:
You just HAD to bring Pornography into it Mothra. Which of course forces me to reluctantly admit that Crosby is definately NOT the most talented 18 year old on the planet.

:biglaugh:

God bless 18 year old... ummm performers.... no I mean hockey... really :sarcasm:
 

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Jaded-Fan said:
You just HAD to bring Pornography into it Mothra. Which of course forces me to reluctantly admit that Crosby is definately NOT the most talented 18 year old on the planet.

:handclap: :yo: :bow: :clap:
 

pei fan

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Pepper said:
Considering you have been one of the biggest hypers of Crosby on this board, I find your claim just a tad ridiculous.
Most of my responses have been to the antihype and if you read carefully
they are very balanced.If I state a fact about Crosby and you don't like it
that doesn't make it hype-it's still a fact.Alot of my posts have been to
correct misformation one of the most common being comparing Crosby's
17 year old achievements to Mario's 18 year old achievements and also
not taking into account the difference in point scoring for the different eras.

Also I have made several posts praising other prospects especially one
Alexander Ovechkin. I have been on record several times stating he is
one of the most special young talents we have seen-but I also happen
to think Crosby is more special and I just like him better.
 

Pepper

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pei fan said:
Most of my responses have been to the antihype and if you read carefully
they are very balanced.If I state a fact about Crosby and you don't like it
that doesn't make it hype-it's still a fact.

No, it's not necessarily a fact, most of the time it was only your opinion. You have been one of the biggest hypers around and posters like you are a major reason why people have been turning against Crosby.

It's obvious that you don't see this and I don't think you can be objective about this.

So we agree to disagree.
 

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Pepper said:
No, it's not necessarily a fact, most of the time it was only your opinion.
Do you mean for example when I said Crosby was a more dominant 16/17
year old player than Mario.Yes it was my opinion but it is also backed up
by the facts.It's not even debatable.

16 year old Mario:top twenty in scoring, no all star team.
16 year old Sidney:scoring leader in the QMJHL (missed 11 games to WJC)
Player of the year in QMJHL.First ever 16 year old scoring leader in the
CHL.First ever 16 year old player of the year in the CHL.Lead last place team to division title.
17 year old Mario:3rd in scoring ,not sure but I think he was 2nd team all star
17 year old Sidney:scoring leader in the QMJHL(by a wide margin over linemates)
scoring leader in the CHL ,Player of the year in the QMJHL,first ever player to win CHL player of the year award twice(and did it back to back in a year when the
chl had more elite players than usual because of the lockout).Lead his team
to Presidents Trophy and won MVP and led his team to a memorial cup final
and was the leading scorer in the tournament.

But just to prove my point that on these boards Sidney is more antihyped
than hyped should I remind you of the poll I did asking who was the best
16/17 year old junior hockey player of the 2 and Mario won the poll by a overwhelming margin.Case closed.
 

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Oh no, not again.

Just look at Lecavalier's stats in his last season in the Q, and his NHL rookie stats.

QMJHL = nothing
 

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roshiajin said:
Oh no, not again.

Just look at Lecavalier's stats in his last season in the Q, and his NHL rookie stats.

QMJHL = nothing


I agree. Some develope earlier than others some later. I am pretty sure that Mario is not sweating over Crosby ever overtaking him - though as the owner of the team on some levels he might even want that. To say that of the kid, or anyone for that matter, is the height of wishful statements. Mario was one of the top players of all time. Had he not had injuries I have few doubts that he would have been the best of all time. Crosby will be very good, seeing him even on an 'off' night in his very first game showed me as much. But how good? His past performances are only maginally useful at best in predicting.
 

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Pepper said:
You have been one of the biggest hypers around and posters like you are a major reason why people have been turning against Crosby.
That is just such crap- blaming me for the hate.From the get go these
boards had lots of hate/disrespect for Crosby.
The official Crosby threads were almost totally dominated with Ovechkin
supporters(one more annoying than others) pumping out the hate.Then there
was the Brule supporters and general WHL supporters.

And it continues today........right now checkout these threads :
AO,Hat Trick....Assist.....{chirp,chirp} :Should Crosbyites eat their
humble pie.
 

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pei fan said:
That is just such crap- blaming me for the hate.From the get go these
boards had lots of hate/disrespect for Crosby.
The official Crosby threads were almost totally dominated with Ovechkin
supporters(one more annoying than others) pumping out the hate.Then there
was the Brule supporters and general WHL supporters.

And it continues today........right now checkout these threads :
AO,Hat Trick....Assist.....{chirp,chirp} :Should Crosbyites eat their
humble pie.


You have a point there. Another is 'AO shows why he is #1.' Those threads, and especially the specific choices made in titling those threads, were designed to be a poke in the eye, and garner responses. Which they succeeded in doing. They had much less to do with praising a particular prospect/player and much more to do with focusing negatively on another, namely Crosby.

Though I will point out that most of those were from one or two particularly unreasonable posters to this board who likely are disowned even by Caps fans and/or those who particularly like AO.
 
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pei fan

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roshiajin said:
Oh no, not again.

Just look at Lecavalier's stats in his last season in the Q, and his NHL rookie stats.

QMJHL = nothing
And that is exactly the kind of response I got everytime I threw the facts out
there.My point always was if you were going to compare them do it on a
comparablre basis.
 
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