He's a stud. My favorite from that draft class including Werenski, McAvoy and Hanifin.
This is a guy who can potentially challenge for the Norris as soon as this year.
He’s not.
In general, he is.he's not underrated at all
He was brutal in the playoffs last season, deer in headlights bad. It's still fresh in people's minds.
He was brutal in the playoffs last season, deer in headlights bad. It's still fresh in people's minds.
That's true but people take these lists way too serious. It's one guys opinion and doesn't really show what most fans think of a player. They may have ranked Werenski 14th and Provy not on the list which we all know is ridiculous but there's a pretty recent Provorov vs Werenski poll where Provorov is getting like 75% of the votes.In general, he is.
Didn't he get snubbed from the TOP 25 Dmen list provided by NHL Network not too long ago? IIRC Werenski was like 14th, and some could argue to take Provy before him.
Silently he tied the Dmen goal scoring last year as well, which is quite remarkable for him.
The Penguins really exposed Provorov IMO. I think he's quite overrated on HFBoards, he doesn't have the high-end tools to be a top-pairing guy IMO.
Lol, not only is he not a #1 but he's not even a top pairing guy? Is this serious? I'd love to see a list of the 60+ defenseman that are better than Provorov.The Penguins really exposed Provorov IMO. I think he's quite overrated on HFBoards, he doesn't have the high-end tools to be a top-pairing guy IMO.
Lol, not only is he not a #1 but he's not even a top pairing guy? Is this serious?
You do know he played the last game and a half with a separated shoulder, right? He literally couldn't handle the puck in game 6 and had at least one goal where he just lost the puck with no pressure on him and it resulted in a goal against. In the first 5 games of the series he was good. The Flyers were dominated but him and Couturier was the bright spots. He played almost half the game and had good possession numbers despite the team being heavily outshot. He may have been a -2 in those 5 games but the team as a whole was outscored like 15-5 at ES so compared to the rest of the lineup he was very good.
In general, he is.
Didn't he get snubbed from the TOP 25 Dmen list provided by NHL Network not too long ago? IIRC Werenski was like 14th, and some could argue to take Provy before him.
Silently he tied the Dmen goal scoring last year as well, which is quite remarkable for him.
In general, he is.
Didn't he get snubbed from the TOP 25 Dmen list provided by NHL Network not too long ago? IIRC Werenski was like 14th, and some could argue to take Provy before him.
Silently he tied the Dmen goal scoring last year as well, which is quite remarkable for him.
Yeah. I don't think he's "underrated" here in the sense that people don't recognize he's really good...but underrated in the sense that for some reason, it seems like it's always being couched as something like, "he's one of the best young defencemen" or "he's going to be a stud". Suggesting he's not even close to the Norris conversation. Or leaving him out of Top-25 lists.
Whereas in my estimation at least, he's already comfortably in that Top-15 range, at least knocking on the door of that Top-10, and a better all-around defenceman than some of the guys who tend to get substantial Norris voting attention.
The most remarkable thing to me, is not only that he's way up there in goal-scoring, and that he generates so much of his point production at even strength...but that along the way, he's also shown that pretty special "Franchise D" sort of ability to more or less drag an anchor around with him as a partner.
He was brutal in the playoffs last season, deer in headlights bad. It's still fresh in people's minds.