Why is it taking so long to extend Chabot?

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    Eugene Melnyk was widely known to be very hands on with the St. Mike's Majors when he owned them. Is there any evidence to suggest that changed with the Sens?
     
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    Caesar Rex Et tu, Dorion

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    Brassard wasnt the better player. He was just older and had a cheap contract.
     
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    But more importantly, was a left hand shot.
     
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    He was nicknamed brassgod in NY and came up big in the playoffs I don't like the move but it's clear Dorion did not value Zibanejad very high.
     
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    An interesting part of the Zibanejad/Brassard trade was when Gorton made his presser after the trade.

    He said right away, Our team got better and younger today. He was right. Zibanejad was better than Brassard, and they managed to get a pick. This is not something Gorton had to say, the trade was easily justifiable for NYR point of view as the price paid by the Sens was excessive, but he still made the comment. He knew full well the trade was a win from day 1 without the pick.
     
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    Which should make everyone doubt Dorion’s ability to evaluate pro level players. You don’t replace a 23 year old, 6’2 215 pound centre who had just put up 50 points for an older, smaller center.

    It made no sense at the time, and it looks worse in hindsight.

    It’d be like us trading White now for someone like JT Miller.

    Miller is probably a bit better and more polished now, but it’d be awful asset management.
     
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    And that itself was odd, as the Ranger fans were pretty lukewarm with the guy before the playoff heroics.
     
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    There was an article today saying we should take on brass again this year for a vet... who writes that fantasy stuff?
     
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    Yikes!!

    I hope not. Brassard has been declining really fast the past two years.
     
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    Z-bad has had one good year with the Rangers - not great, but good - this past season, and on a non-playoff team. Let's see him do it again before we put him in the Hall of Fame...
     
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    He is going to have a monster season playing with Panarin and Kaako. Probably not Hall of Fame worthy, but he is going to explode this year.
     
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    I recall that media said Alfredsson was asking for a 2 year deal at about $7M annually. No sense in giving him a $14M cheque at that time.
     
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    We did not get any good seasons out of Brassard. The Z2-B trade was a disaster.
     
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    C’mon! He is also going to have 4 top ten radio hits with Miley Cyrus.

    ;)

    We’ll see if Zibanejad can repeat. I think he is going to stay level.
     
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    Wow ya I just thought of this. He will easily hit PPG.
     
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    Apparently some posters felt this left handed shot thing was going to help Ryan produce more. That trade was horrific for the Senators. The GM was an idiot.
     
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    I was being a touch sarcastic about the Hall of Fame. :) I would caution anyone, though, to take reports of who is playing with who with a grain of salt. The history of August line combos lasting through the season is not a very good one. This time last year we all thought that Filip Zadina was going to light it up at Red Wings camp...
     
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    He'd easily be our best C .. even if he leveled off. I think he continues to improve. He has lots of skill and point producers around him.. If his play remains the same his point totals should still increase.
     
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    With Panarin and Kakko he could put up 100 pts.
     
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    Chabot has zero incentive to sign for less than market value and will wait for an offer sheet.

    The Sens have shown no ability or desire to pay current market value to their stars.

    Chabot is gone after this season when this pattern continues.
     
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    If you just looked at HockeyDB at the time the trade was made, you might have convinced yourself that Brassard was the better player. He had just come off seasons of 60 and 58 pts.

    I sure hope that Dorion and the rest of the staff aren't that dumb; that they had watched Brassard play enough to realize he topped out as an okay 2nd line center, and also that they realized that at his age and the miles on his body that he was about to decline.

    That is, I hope they just completely misjudged Zibanejad's future -- thought he'd never be anything better than a soft, somewhat lazy 50 pt player, and decided to get him out of the organization sooner rather than later.

    Somehow I'd rather just believe they misjudged Zibanejad the person, rather than looked at a couple season point totals and convinced themselves they were really improving the team.
     
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    That would be great... always happy to see Dorion trade players away and have them become stars on other teams!
     
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    "Was" an idiot? Is he smarter now?
     
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    All available evidence points to no.
     
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