Thanks. I've never used the term to describe a person because I was uncertain about the connotation but that article helped fill me in. I have no Newfoundland or Maritime roots but my wife does; part of her family came from the UK and Ireland to both Newfoundland and Nova Scotia (and possibly Quebec; there's some French names buried in there somewhere?) in the 19th century and made their way to New England at some point afterwards.
I know that northern New Brunswick is highly French-speaking; in fact, there's even a town in Maine on the Northern New Brunswick border (Madawaska) where more than 80% of families speak French at home. Does that part of New Brunswick have different sporting allegiances as a general rule as compared to southern New Brunswick?
The negative connotation is that the term generally refers to Newfoundlanders as being dumb and/or lazy.What is the negative connotation attached to "Newfie" that makes it derogatory?? I must be missing a piece of history here... Isn't it like calling a Canadian a Canuck? Why should I get offended by the term "Canuck" being Canadian? Or maybe I'm missing the point entirely.
Not really different from calling someone from Saskatchewan a Saskie lol
The negative connotation is that the term generally refers to Newfoundlanders as being dumb and/or lazy.
From the article I posted....apparently the term was created by outsiders to refer to Newfoundlanders in a derogatory way.
And the term has always been used mostly in a negative way.
1) I don't know anyone who's ever used it to mean dumb or lazy. I think that was just one person's opinion.
2) of course the nickname comes from outsiders. No one picks their own nickname. Others pick a nickname for you. Ask any NHL player as many have talked about nicknames.
3)has always been used negatively how? Can you point to any famous or pop culture or known incident or anything like that where "Newfie" was attached to a negative action or stigma?
2 words - Racoon Whisperer.
Newfoundland is a province, not a city...Isn't Atlantic Canada in Newfoundland, New Brunswick? Maybe I'm wrong?
Why would the Sens be more popular there than established teams like Habs, B's, and Leafs? Assuming Newfoundland is a city in the province of New Brunswick.
Now if the discussion was about why there are more Habs and Leafs fans than Sens fans in Ottawa. Well...we would be on to something.
Like I know Americans tend to focus on their own geography, but do yall really not know where NFLD is? It is a big island
all good. it is not like much exciting stuff happens over there (just kidding my newfie friends I love you)I thought Newfoundland was a city in the province of New Brunswick until a few minutes ago.
Yikes....
Since the term was first used, it has been mostly used to refer to Newfoundlanders in a negative way. This is common knowledge to the vast majority of Canadians.1) I don't know anyone who's ever used it to mean dumb or lazy. I think that was just one person's opinion.
2) of course the nickname comes from outsiders. No one picks their own nickname. Others pick a nickname for you. Ask any NHL player as many have talked about nicknames.
3)has always been used negatively how? Can you point to any famous or pop culture or known incident or anything like that where "Newfie" was attached to a negative action or stigma?
No it isn't? I know dozens of Newfoundlanders who happily refer to themselves as "newfies"Since the term was first used, it has been mostly used to refer to Newfoundlanders in a negative way. This is common knowledge to the vast majority of Canadians.
Since the term was first used, it has been mostly used to refer to Newfoundlanders in a negative way. This is common knowledge to the vast majority of Canadians.
Admittedly me experiences are anecdotal, but I have never, EVER, heard of "newfie" being derogatory until todayIt is not common knowledge at all. Even the article above said many Newfoundlanders see the term as endearing.
Also many other say it depends how it's said, but that said without any negative meaning is fine and ok.
Not everyone thinks the same way you do.
How is a shortening of "Newfoundlander" in any way derogatory?So people in Newfoundland are called "Newfies"? Interesting.
Couldn't that be taken as deregotatory by some?
Idk ha...
So people in Newfoundland are called "Newfies"? Interesting.
Couldn't that be taken as deregotatory by some?
Idk ha...
How is a shortening of "Newfoundlander" in any way derogatory?
That would be like me getting upset at being called a Haligonian
I know and I am just genuinely flabbergasted, having lived my entire life in the maritimes and having visited NFLD multiple times, interacted with its people etc., that someone could think thatI was just asking.
I know and I am just genuinely flabbergasted, having lived my entire life in the maritimes and having visited NFLD multiple times, interacted with its people etc., that someone could think that
IT IS LITERALLY A SHORTENING OF THE NAME OF THE PLACE
holy moly people will clutch pearls over ANYTHING these days
What year do you think this is? People get offended at everything.How is a shortening of "Newfoundlander" in any way derogatory?
I think you misunderstand, I am not flabbergasted at you, I am surprised at @StaniowskiI'm not upset over anything sir.