Wally112pac
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Kessel has more offensive ability than Crosby if he reaches it.
And there's a cow flyin outside my window.
Kessel has more offensive ability than Crosby if he reaches it.
And there's a cow flyin outside my window.
Kessel has more offensive ability than Crosby if he reaches it.
I think Kessel's goal scoring abilities are quite overrated. Severely in my opinion. First off, Toevs had more goals on a worse team then Kessel. Quite frankly, I think Kessel's goal scoring abilities are not really close to Crosby's. I just think that posters think that:
A) Crosby is a good all around player - great play maker
And
B) Kessel is a pure goal scorer
Therefore they conclude one is better then the other at each category, however, it doesn't exactly work this way. Crosby is better at both.
PS: I am not a huge Crosby fan - give me Ovechkin any day of the week.
Kessel has more offensive ability than Crosby if he reaches it.
Kessel has more offensive ability than Crosby if he reaches it.
Kessel is still very raw. He has all the abilities. But has yet to really put everything all together. When he does, or if he does. He could be a top notch play maker.
And while i agree that MN is way better than NoDak but to really compare the two. You must not know much about the WCHA. And did you watch Kessel shoot the puck at all this year. Besides the WJC?
If you think Kessel might be the better goal scorer. Keep in mind he was the leading assist man on his team and in the WJC.
Kessel is faster, better slapper and wrister. Can pass as good as anyone i have seen.
Is Crosby the better player, Yes.
The guy who does the Penguins score is notorious for being "realistic". At least 2/3 of the teams out there would have Malkin as no worse than a 10B, probably alot with 10A.
That said...if I was doing the scores Malkin would be a 10B. Kessel a 9C.
Malkin is not a generational talent.
The guy who does the Penguins score is notorious for being "realistic". At least 2/3 of the teams out there would have Malkin as no worse than a 10B, probably alot with 10A.
That said...if I was doing the scores Malkin would be a 10B. Kessel a 9C.
To answer the original question in this thread-why shouldn't Kessel have the same rating is Malkin? He's a highly rated offensive player with excellent tools who has a good chance of reaching his potential in the pros. I know Malkin is put on a pedestal around here, but he's still a prospect who hasn't proven himself at the NHL level yet, and so there is still a degree of uncertainty around him.
As for the Kessel/Crosby "debate," there's no doubt Crosby is the superior overall player and always will be. I also have no doubt that Kessel won't have the immediate impact Crosby did in his rookie season. However, there are some things Kessel does better (SHOCKER!), and he doesn't have legitimate ability, so it's not outside the realm of possibility that he could, for instance be a superior goal scorer at his peak.
Next time ratings will be released I want to see Nikolai Kulemin with 9.0C ratings ... or Sergei Shirokov with 8.5B.
You almost got it.I think we should all be in a wait and see mode
Ovechkin/Crosby > Kessel > Malkin
So what does Kessel do better than Crosby? I guess I have not seen Kessel at his best in all the dozen of games that I have watched.
How many times have you watched him play?
Both are 9.0 B's, does anyone think this is a joke?? Kessel has great offensive ability but he's not in Malkins class...
10B? Try 9B. No way Malkin is a 10. Wont happen.
No need to watch a generational talent play. Just look at the stats. Did Malkin beat any record in the last 5 years? No.
Crosby just beat one NHL record on his first year.(Youngest in the NHL history to score 100 pts)
Whos the youngest with an Art Ross? Gretzky? You can bet he will be in that race next year and if he stays healthy it might well be possible.