different players. but MacA was a useful player. Had some good years in TO. He is nothing special though. Streaky. Replaceable. Not sure you can compare him with Clarkson but bang for the buck..you get way more out of MacA I think.
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different players. but MacA was a useful player. Had some good years in TO. He is nothing special though. Streaky. Replaceable. Not sure you can compare him with Clarkson but bang for the buck..you get way more out of MacA I think.
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He cried when Carlyle benched him in the playoffs and according to MacArthur himself that's when he decided he was done in Toronto. Apparently he wasn't having enough "fun" playing under Carlyle.
Good in a support roll with more skilled players, but players like him aren't hard to come by. We upgraded at wing with Clarkson and picked up Raymond on a cheap deal so even if he wanted to come back there wouldn't have been a spot for him.
Good in a support roll with more skilled players, but players like him aren't hard to come by. We upgraded at wing with Clarkson and picked up Raymond on a cheap deal so even if he wanted to come back there wouldn't have been a spot for him.
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MacArthur said he decided he wasn't coming back on his own after Carlyle healthy scratched him in the playoffs. Nonis probably made an offer.
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Either way, I did like him when he performed but have to say the members of KGM were really all were miscast and thrown about after they lost chemistry. Once that happened it was over for all but one. The contract Kulemin now keeps, he was not happy with and I doubt we are going to see Kulemin going forth with the likes of recent signings, shame really.
Kulemin is higher on my list of core leafs than Bozak, Clarkson, Bolland, Orr, Mc, Mc, Smithson. If only we could fully activate him, he could be a JVR light.
Nizdizzle
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Just a casualty of our winger depth, he was a luxury that we couldn't afford and was replaceable. Simple as that.
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More likely it was the other way around.
Clarke was fine, but the Leafs needed to add in areas he couldn't help. With Lupul, Kessel, JVR and Clarkson there wasn't much room for MacArthur.
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Clarke only plays inspired hockey when he has something to prove. His 60 point season was the year after he nearly had no job in the NHL. He fought, he hit, he hustled, his play was inspired. The years that followed, he was hit and miss, his tenacity was non-existent by the time caryle was hired.
Don't miss him. The team finally made the playoffs last season with caryle, yet he threw him under the bus, and questioned his coaching ability!!! Caryle has a cup and has coached the leafs to being one of the best teams in the east!! Yet because he was benched, Mac thinks he didn't know what he was doing.
Obviously he has character issues.
Don't miss him. The team finally made the playoffs last season with caryle, yet he threw him under the bus, and questioned his coaching ability!!! Caryle has a cup and has coached the leafs to being one of the best teams in the east!! Yet because he was benched, Mac thinks he didn't know what he was doing.
Obviously he has character issues.
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I think Kulemin was the glue guy that made KGM work as a unit and I think the Russian airlines crash where he lost his friends had profound impact on his offensive drive.
Add: to me Kules was of higher order than Grabo when he was here and Mac as well.
Add: to me Kules was of higher order than Grabo when he was here and Mac as well.
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Kessel, Lupul and JVR are all clearly better than MacA
We decided to go with Clarkson over MacA because Clarkson plays more of a physical role and gives some more size and grit to our top 6 (something MacA does not have).
MacA is a goal scorer that needs to play on the top 6. If someone can get him the puck, he was good at shooting it in the net. While not horrible defensively, he's not exactly a shut down kind of guy.
On our third line, we have Kulemin, who is better defensively and better in a shutdown role, and can kill penalities. Kulemin isn't as good of a goal scorer... but he can put the puck in the net too... but Kulemin is stronger in most other aspects, espeically when utilized in a shut-down role.
So that only leaves one spot open and it went to Raymond. Personally, I would rather MacA over Raymond if they were getting paid the same money... but Raymond is way cheaper at $1 million and we're up against the cap... so at that point, we were pretty much forced to go with Raymond (who has been playing very well, espeically considering how low his cap hit is).
We decided to go with Clarkson over MacA because Clarkson plays more of a physical role and gives some more size and grit to our top 6 (something MacA does not have).
MacA is a goal scorer that needs to play on the top 6. If someone can get him the puck, he was good at shooting it in the net. While not horrible defensively, he's not exactly a shut down kind of guy.
On our third line, we have Kulemin, who is better defensively and better in a shutdown role, and can kill penalities. Kulemin isn't as good of a goal scorer... but he can put the puck in the net too... but Kulemin is stronger in most other aspects, espeically when utilized in a shut-down role.
So that only leaves one spot open and it went to Raymond. Personally, I would rather MacA over Raymond if they were getting paid the same money... but Raymond is way cheaper at $1 million and we're up against the cap... so at that point, we were pretty much forced to go with Raymond (who has been playing very well, espeically considering how low his cap hit is).
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He can't crack the top six.
JvR/Kessel
Lupul/Clarkson
And it's arguable if he could make the 3rd line
Kulemin/Raymond
He would be on the 4th, but we like to keep our goons there
Orr/McLaren
So didn't make it.
JvR/Kessel
Lupul/Clarkson
And it's arguable if he could make the 3rd line
Kulemin/Raymond
He would be on the 4th, but we like to keep our goons there
Orr/McLaren
So didn't make it.
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He's on the PK? Surprising considering he was always the third wheel when it came to forwards in the defensive end. He's probably just buying into MacLean's system moreso than Carlyle's. That, also being another decision as to why he likely didn't get re-signed. Carlyle didn't seem to be a big fan of him and Macarthur obviously wasn't very fond of him either.
He didn't fit Carlyle's "system": Play like crap for 50 minutes/game, turn the puck over at every opportunity, make your goalies sweat through 3 pairs of clothing per game and have one of your elite wingers pull a rabbit out of their hat once or twice in a game. Not everyone can adapt to this type of defensive gameplan.
Salary purposes primarily. Raymond has been just as good for us (if not more) and costs only $1m. Mac wasn't built for Carlyle's system and couldn't handle the coach's criticism. Looks like it was a mutual separation.
No hate for the guy though. He was a useful player when he wanted to be. Scored a couple of big goals for us in the playoffs last year.
No hate for the guy though. He was a useful player when he wanted to be. Scored a couple of big goals for us in the playoffs last year.
When Mac plays with a chip on his shoulder he usually plays well.
For example, 1st season in Toronto after being walked away from in arbitration.
Another example, Played well in playoffs after being a healthy scratch earlier in the series.
Mac has talent, and his biggest issue is, and will likely continue to be consistency. He has a tendency to really disappear for extended stretches. Hopefully he figures it out.
For example, 1st season in Toronto after being walked away from in arbitration.
Another example, Played well in playoffs after being a healthy scratch earlier in the series.
Mac has talent, and his biggest issue is, and will likely continue to be consistency. He has a tendency to really disappear for extended stretches. Hopefully he figures it out.
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Odd that he was a healthy scratch, since he's solid defensively, great on the PK. First star of the game today, 2nd in the NHL in +/- right now with a +14.
http://www.nhl.com/ice/playerstats.htm?fetchKey=20142ALLSASAll&sort=plusMinus&viewName=summary
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He's a great 2nd liner when he has the right guys around him, problem is with the Leafs winger depth he was likely bound for the 3rd line where he just isn't as effective. Nothing against the guy though, glad he is having success elsewhere although I'd prefer if it was in a different city. 
cause mac contributed in the playoffs
great guy, did his service... just let him walk
i uno Nonis felt wasnt doing well and he prob wanted his own boy (Raymond)
in the line up instead
ill miss him, great guy despite what people say on this forum
oh wells
great guy, did his service... just let him walk
i uno Nonis felt wasnt doing well and he prob wanted his own boy (Raymond)
in the line up instead
ill miss him, great guy despite what people say on this forum
oh wells
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Raymond will not be $1 next year, and may have to be let go next for cap reasons also like Mac this past year.
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