Why did Quebec not get a team?

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  1. KirkAlbuquerque

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    Too many Canadian teams as it is
     
  2. NinjaKick

    NinjaKick Go Devils! Go Canada!

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    every once in a while when I browse on here and I stumble on a post that makes my brain hurt
    ouch
     
  3. NA Scouting

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    So much fail in this thread.

    They literally just built a modern arena based on Pittsburgh's, are you kidding me?


    What? Since the beginning of the construction of the arena they never said a thing aside from expressing interest. They entered the expansion process that finally went to Vegas and hardly even complained. They did everything they could and said they supported and respected Bettman and the NHL. They said they would stay ready for the NHL and yet the NHL doesn't give a F. It's actually impressing how the Quebec group hasn't come out in the media and thrashed the NHL
     
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    Quebec is being saved for the "break glass in case of emergency" team relocation.
     
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    That is the worst thing to do when trying to impress the NHL. Every game should be an instant sellout with even more wanting to go. That sends a better message then boycotting the league.
     
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    I thought I recall the potential ownership being in media talking about bringing the NHL back. If I am wrong then I take it back.

    I don't remember True North talking about it until it was basically a done deal.
     
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    This will be Quebec's lone shot.....
     
  8. NA Scouting

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    What people don't seem to understand is that there is not a single argument against Quebec City being in the NHL. It should be done by now and we should never talk about whether or not there should be a team there ever again.

    Giving a team to Quebec City would be very simple, and would cost the NHL nothing. The arena is already built, and they are willing to pay the $500M. The fans already have their butts in the seats and are ready for puck drop. I understand the NHL and Gary wants the league to be some kind of ''private elite club'', to drive prices up, but they should make an exception for Quebec City. Especially after saying how great their bid was during the Vegas expansion process. The NHL knows Quebec City is ready, and Quebec City is ready for the NHL. So what if there is an imbalance in the conferences? It's no big deal. A new team would guarentee the owners more money, and the players 23 more roster spots.

    While it is a small market per NHL standards, everyone knows the fans are crazy about hockey and the arena will always be sold out. There might be less sponsorship and growth opportunities but nevertheless the team, even on bad years, will make more money than at least 1/3 of the NHL. In big years, they will be in the top-10. They would be ahead of Florida, Arizona, Carolina, etc even with a bunch of AHLers on the ice. Heck, they sell more tickets for juniors games.

    What's the NHL's argument for delaying? ''Meh, we're good with 16-16 conferences.'' Like, what? It's like Apple saying: ''Meh, we're good with making $1.5 billion revenus, and even though we could surely reach $2 billion by expanding to this territory, we... won't. We simply won't. Just because.
     
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    Correct.
     
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    I think is Arizona relocates its to Houston and if Florida, Carolina or Ottawa relocate, its to Quebec City. I think this would be pretty good tbh.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Field of Dreams If you build it, Tavares will come

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    Quebec City doesn't bring the NHL any closer to a US broadcasting deal.

    Quebec City isnt a large city, the population growth is below average in Canada, and very poor for a metropolitan area.

    It makes little sense to invest in a small, slowly growing city. Instead, the NHL will invest in the sunbelt because the expected present value of current and future earnings of a team in Houston is much higher than a team in Quebec.
     
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    You are correct, but Quebec should be high on the relocation list. 1A or 1B
     
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    Stickpucker Playmaka

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    Just watch the Habs.
     
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    Arizona to Houston, Florida to Quebec. Zero movement of teams from divisions
     
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    Hockey in Houston is nuts.
     
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    Plub Part time Leaf fan

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    Nah. Things are fine.
     
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    When you see Michel Bergeron (Former Nords Coach) and Rodger Brulotte (Baseball Announcer) discussing the Montreal Canadiens, you know there's an issue with sports in the province of Québec (which includes Québec and Montreal). The Montreal team ate up (converted) a good groups of fans around and younger kids don't know about the Nordiques... ALSO, the French language being a thing also play into a lot of French Canadians associating with the Habs. So, why Québec now??
    I know there are a ton of debates and arguments. There are rumors that Geoff Molson also doesn't want Québec to be back... as he can get more profits off is team, instead of having to maybe lose some fans...
    Anyway, the ever-coming back question..
     
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    Why on earth would the NFL want to move the team out of Green Bay? It's one of the most interesting teams in the league and has a rich history. I can see you questioning that market if they had a half empty stadium when they played but they have great fan support. Maybe people need to take the initiative to learn about places before making such harsh judgments as to which locations deserve a team or not.

    :jets
     
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    There ought to be a referendum! or, something? :)
     
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    Just move the OTT franchise there if needed, perhaps the sooner the better. There are already too many CAN teams as is.
     
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    What was that Jim?
     
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    you know what, I understand Quebec may only have a population area of 800 000, or so, but I still refuse to believe they can't do at least better then 10 American NHL teams. I cannot image them not getting a higher attendance then places Like Miami, Arizona, Brookyln , to name a few.
     
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    7 million dollar man Gary doesnt mind empty seats. If you go to a Panthers home game, you will see that 5 sections behind each goal in the upper bowl are closed. If you happen to have a ticket there, they will get you to a different section. Choose your seat because all upper sections are 80% empty.

    Watch a game on tv and the camera never goes higher than the lower bowl. Rich team cover for them because revenue money is pooled.
     
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  25. Kimota

    Kimota ROY DU NORD!!!

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    Don't worry about that, Québec in the late 80s finished last like 3 years in a row and still had a good attendances. We are in hockey nuts country. that is what i don't get from the NHL, wouldn't it better to have filled arenas?
     

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