Why can't Toronto draw penalties?

[TIGERCOOL]

Because we're not a team that creates any emotion. We dont annoy any team in taking penalties. We dont engage in any back and forth. We dont initiate contact (which other teams may respond too and take retaliatory penalties).

Everyone knows the the leafs team will just try to beat you with dangles and skill, so other teams are better prepared for it

This doesn't explain why more blatant penalties go uncalled against the Leafs than any other team. I really wish someone with some editing finesse would make a nice long compilation, because there is PLENTY of source material.

 

[BodaciousBeefBazooka]

Leafs use to draw penalties. Teams are trying to be disciplined facing the leafs because of there scary good power play that is loaded with the teams best players. There is a high percentage they will score on the power play so teams are trying to be more conscious. That's my theory anyway.

 

[Muston Atthews]

I’ve stopped trying to figure it out. We’re one of the softest, fastest, high scoring and skilled team in the league. Why were not even league average at drawing penalties is a joke

 

[therealkoho]

the nice thing is, Mitch Marner has set the new standard for hooking/slash/interference

it does boggle the mind though don't it!

https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/hyman-heads-dressing-room-blue-jackets-get-away-high-stick/

Takeaways: Leafs learn a lesson from the Penguins | The Star

8 officials and none of them saw anything, no sir nothin at all I suppose they all must've gone to the Kerry Fraser School of "real good refereeing, when you ain't blinking"

 

[81Leafs50]

Toronto Maple Leafs 2017-2018

799 Leafs PIMS

822 Leafs Opponent PIMS

-23.0 Differential

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Considering the Leafs have Matthews, Mitch, Marleau, who never take penalties this differential is doesnt look right. Refs definitely screwing the Leafs.

 

[Faltorvo]

you want to see insane unbalance when it comes to pims

look at the numbers in the Boston PO series last year

the imbalance in heinous

 

[GoodNewfieBoy]

Cause they aren't skating hard enough to warrant getting calls. If it's not easy for them they don't want it.

 

[Coachcorner]

Seen some Kadri and Tavares draws this season. Early on especially. They still doing thangs and moving thangs. Real hard. Y'all better recognize and see to it. They doin it. Bigg tyme. We still drawing boards on suckas. See to it.

 

[Hunter368]

It would be interesting to see someone who isn’t as lazy as me graph out for the Leafs:

GF vs PP ranking vs pens drawn vs pens taken

Might be interesting to see if there is any trend/correlation in more/better GF/PP ranking leads to less pen drawn. Also interesting to see if generally the pens taken remain roughly static. Could be teams are intentionally trying to be more disciplined vs the Leafs.

 

[Tak7]

Leafs use to draw penalties. Teams are trying to be disciplined facing the leafs because of there scary good power play that is loaded with the teams best players. There is a high percentage they will score on the power play so teams are trying to be more conscious. That's my theory anyway.

Think it's more a case of the team not really moving their foot or using their speed.

If teams are playing "safer" against us, then you'd expect to see more space out there. That's not the case

 

[Craig Button]

It's always been this way.
We only get calls when our team is total garbage.
Anywhere from a bubble team to a playoff contender we will not get calls.
When Ron Wilson was coach his solution to bad calls was to play softer and do nothing. I remember Phaneuf getting a punch to the face and a face wash and he retaliated and got a penalty. A few games later Phaneuf got a face wash and skated away. That game we had no penalties but boy were we a super soft team

 

[Al14]

I swear that a high percentage of today's Refs hated the Leafs growing up and wanted to become Refs so they could personally screw them, and screw them but good!

A low percentage of Refs were Leaf fans growing up, so, they have to over compensate and call more penalties against us to prove they are not favoring our Leafs!

I also sometimes wonder if our Leafs are still being punished for the days when Pat Quinn would tear strips off the Refs during games! R.I.P. Pat!

We are royally screwed no matter what!

Edit: I should have added this , so people didn't take the above so serious!

 

[Slyfox]

How you get penalties is skating with the puck. I swear our time with the puck is usually less than 50%. Most of the time we are not skating with the puck through their zone or neutral. Its chip and chase which doesn't draw many penalties. Kadri is really good with handling the puck and is why he gets a lot of penalities drawn.

 

[DueDiligence]

Because we're not a team that creates any emotion. We dont annoy any team in taking penalties. We dont engage in any back and forth. We dont initiate contact (which other teams may respond too and take retaliatory penalties).

Everyone knows the the leafs team will just try to beat you with dangles and skill, so other teams are better prepared for it

The Leafs are highly skilled but are soft as butter. The ultimate "run and gun" offensive team that can't grind it out.

 

[Daisy Jane]

I swear that a high percentage of today's Refs hated the Leafs growing up and wanted to become Refs so they could personally screw them, and screw them but good!

A low percentage of Refs were Leaf fans growing up, so, they have to over compensate and call more penalties against us to prove they are not favoring our Leafs!

I also sometimes wonder if our Leafs are still being punished for the days when Pat Quinn would tear strips off the Refs during games! R.I.P. Pat!

We are royally screwed no matter what!

yah. no.

 

[horner]

Need to skate and work hard to get teams into penalty trouble.

 

[Mr Hockey]

Every fan base must be very amused reading our threads

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

Wrong thread means context didn’t make sense.

Noooooo don’t like it it doesn’t work!

 

[Al14]

yah. no.

I wasn't totally serious, but, thanks for replying Daisy!

Well, Quinn did yell at the Refs a lot during his tenure behind the Leaf's bench!

 

[Daisy Jane]

Every fan base must be very amused reading our threads

yah well sometimes other fan bases have other funny stuff too. it's a fan thing.

 

[Guy Boucher]

Refs are afraid of deciding games, so they're less likely to give the Leafs PPs.

 

[Canadienna]

I'm a Habs fan - but I've watched most of the leaf games this year. I don't think there's some league conspiracy against the leafs, but I do think that after the first 4 or 5 games of PP dominance by the leafs refs were letting that affect their calls.

Not all of them and not all the time obviously but a borderline call that might go your way I think is less likely to if it's a close game and you have a 50%PP.

2 cents worth

 

[56 Years No Cup]

Sure that Hyman eye to the stick call was really borderline.

 

[LeafShark]

Leafs are only an average posession team.

 

[Eat The Rich]

I'm a Habs fan - but I've watched most of the leaf games this year. I don't think there's some league conspiracy against the leafs, but I do think that after the first 4 or 5 games of PP dominance by the leafs refs were letting that affect their calls.

Not all of them and not all the time obviously but a borderline call that might go your way I think is less likely to if it's a close game and you have a 50%PP.

2 cents worth

Referees. The real heroes.