SlapshotTheMovie
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The habs still have that weber contract? Yep they lost it.
So Boston won the Seguin trade?
So it's declaring a winner based on team success...
They most certainly would be.Maybe the Canadians would be better if Weber wasn’t constantly hurt?
Preds are clear winners IMO. Three decent years out of Subban then actually get some assets in return for him. Weber was pretty equal to Subban over the past three years, but the remainder of his contract is a negative asset.
Nashville fans, are you going to miss Montreal fans telling you this?
I think you would be hard pressed to find a single Nashville fan that would call Subban their best overall defender in the three seasons that he was there. Sure there were times when he was their best, but there were also times when he was their 4th best. Didn't stop Habs fans from stopping in on their board and telling Nashville fans what opinions were correct.Are we wrong? We gave up the best defender and he went onto become Nashville's best defender. Now he's New Jersey's best defender. We didn't just lose an elite defenseman, we lost easily one of the most charismatic athletes in NA sports (and easily the most in the NHL by a mile) who brought fans to the edge of their seats.
Still a horrible trade to this day.
Does that mean those Habs final 4 finishes and 100 point seasons are nothing? Go figure.Yay, second place. Neither team has won a cup. IMO, it’s a draw.
An almost hilarious amount of success when compared to Dallas. 2 cup finals appearances and being a perennial contender compared to Dallas having made the playoffs only 3 times.It's true. They had more success than Dallas since the Seguin trade so...
Weber's missed 84 games in 3 seasons for Montreal, and that's a lot. Even PK missed considerable time but still "only" 35 games.
Subban was a key part for the Preds making the SCF, and anyone neglecting that don't remember how Weber was part of the Preds the year before and ran out of gas in the 2 round - complete opposite to Subban who played with energy all the way through. Seriously, Weber looked like a pylon in the last games of 15/16. So say what you will, the Preds experienced this success after the swap and it made a positive impact. Not to mention, the Preds never won any division titles before. Now they won it b2b and even one presidents trophy. Weber has done nothing to change the Habs, aside from hot first couple months they had in 16/17 after the trade. Would it matter if the Habs had Weber or Subban back there the last 3 years? Not sure about that.
Preds get a couple of 2nds as they move on from Subban - painless end to the saga vs what could've been a major headache that is the Weber contract. He's 34 years old and probably plays 4 more years until his actual salary drops down to 1M, then he's probably LTIR'ed. Regardless, is Weber worth 7.8M from 34 to 38? I guess we'll see, but i doubt it.
Right now for me the answer is Nashville. They had franchise-record success with him and in the end get assets from him and are able to sign Duchene - not happening if they have 34 yr old Weber @ 7.8M in the books right now. They were forced to a bad situation because of the offer sheet but in the end were able to manage it well.
If you ask Poile he does the trade 10/10. Ask Bergevin, and maybe he'd take a second look at some of the other options available at the time.
Weber is 34 and signed for 6 more years with a $7.8 million cap hit. I have a feeling his age and declining productivity combined with the cap hit will do much to hinder roster progress/cap flexibility these last 4 years or so of the contractYa no.
Weber's value to the habs this upcoming season and the following years will be way higher than what Nashville will get from the two 2nd round picks they got from Subban
1 cup final as Seguin was part of the club in 2013. Point stands thoughAn almost hilarious amount of success when compared to Dallas. 2 cup finals appearances and being a perennial contender compared to Dallas having made the playoffs only 3 times.
If they "lost" the trade then it wasnt by much
Showing my age. For me there are actually 2 Seguin trades so sometimes I confuse the dates lol1 cup final as Seguin was part of the club in 2013. Point stands though
before he hits dis decline? Did you see him last year?This gonna sound strange but I think neither did but instead the Devils made out like bandits. They got Subban for a song. Weber's deal is just too long and it will be an anchor on both the Habs one day and the Preds with the recapture penalty. Devils get Subban for 3 years and that's probably all they want him for before he hits his decline.
Guess you don't know much about hockey...This isn't the biggest loser where the biggest loser wins.
You just don't go anywhere with players like Subban. Nashville was smart to figure that out.
Well since that trade, outside of NSH going to the finals, neither team has done anything.
So .. draw? ish?