Speculation: Who will get bought out this offseason?

[McJedi]

A buyout is the least likely scenario with EJ.

More like the last resort. There is already plenty of chatter around the Avs organization that he’ll waive his NMC for the ED. Habs fans everywhere will be crushed.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

More like the last resort. There is already plenty of chatter around the Avs organization that he’ll waive his NMC for the ED. Habs fans everywhere will be crushed.

No hab fan anywhere will be crushed.

We already have a collection of slow, terrible dmen on the team.

Well, Bergevin might be crushed.

 

[John Mandalorian]

More like the last resort. There is already plenty of chatter around the Avs organization that he’ll waive his NMC for the ED. Habs fans everywhere will be crushed.

Id say the last resort is 4-4-1.

 

[Vitto79]

Martino Jones. He’s all but gone. Vlasic is a pipe dream, the buyout would be horrendous because of his structure.

Hertl avail for a big NYR package of Georgiev, 1st , top prospects like Jones ?

 

[mattef]

can anyone remind me what the dates are?

buyout
expansion draft - Jul 21
draft - Jul 23
free agency - Jul 28
second buyout

thanks in advance!

 

[themelkman]

Hertl avail for a big NYR package of Georgiev, 1st , top prospects like Jones ?

Jones is pretty good, but in the area we need least from prospects and if we trade Hertl we have little use for Georg. Package would be pure futures and needs a serious quality asset first, then some other stuff.

Pretty much your going to lose something you dont want to lose in a Hertl deal

 

[Vitto79]

Jones is pretty good, but in the area we need least from prospects and if we trade Hertl we have little use for Georg. Package would be pure futures and needs a serious quality asset first, then some other stuff.

Pretty much your going to lose something you dont want to lose in a Hertl deal

i figured but at only 1 year left till ufa I wasn’t sure on the investment

 

[Mike Jones]

can anyone remind me what the dates are?

buyout
expansion draft - Jul 21
draft - Jul 23
free agency - Jul 28
second buyout

thanks in advance!

I'd like to know too. For some reason I recall mention of buyouts happening after the expansion draft.

 

[McJedi]

Id say the last resort is 4-4-1.

Nope. That’s a non starter. You don’t lose a Nuke, Bura or Jost to appease a non entity like EJ.

 

[John Mandalorian]

Nope. That’s a non starter. You don’t lose a Nuke, Bura or Jost to appease a non entity like EJ.

I’d say 2 million of dead cap space in 23/24 is more of a non starter.

I also think they’d protect Burakovsky instead of Kadri.

 

[WingsMJN2965]

Detroit-Possibly Frans Nielsen.

Not sure I see the point. Barely saves them any money and they're not coming anywhere near the cap this upcoming season. If they don't want him they can just bury him.

 

[Groo]

Hertl avail for a big NYR package of Georgiev, 1st , top prospects like Jones ?

Chytil, Schneider and a 1st

 

[Vitto79]

Chytil, Schneider and a 1st

not for a 1 year ufa. Easy pass

 

[Groo]

not for a 1 year ufa. Easy pass

Be on your way then

 

[Juxtaposer]

I feel like Martin Jones is almost definitely going to be bought out. The whole org has turned against him and seems to be using him as a scapegoat for our bad season. Not that he doesn’t deserve it because he was god awful, but Jones was far from our only problem.

Vlasic is basically un-buyoutable. I wish we could, but it’s not realistic. Besides, I don’t mind spending big money on a mediocre third pairing defenseman as much as I mind spending big money on a starting goaltender who wouldn’t even crack an AHL roster.

Hertl avail for a big NYR package of Georgiev, 1st , top prospects like Jones ?

See, I’d be at least intrigued by a package like this. A mid-first and a great-but-not-elite prospect like one of NYR’s defensemen would be a reasonable offer for a top center with only one year on his contract.

However, there is a huge disconnect between what the fans want and what the Sharks will do. We want to re-build, which would include trading Hertl for futures. But Sharks management is convinced that the Sharks will be a playoff team next year for some ungodly reason (I'm assuming they didn’t watch any Sharks games the past two years) so I doubt Hertl is actually available in real life.

 

[SoupyFIN]

Stralman could be one for Florida, tough to say. He's fallen out of the rotation (Forsling stepped up, Nutivaara has been getting consistently into games recently, then the Montour trade happened, not to mention the line-up is missing Ekblad and probably a couple AHL guys pushing for a spot next season), past injuries and age is starting to show. He played fine the first 20-ish games, so it's not like he's completely done. I could see the team keeping him for veteran depth (especially if Yandle is gone, d-core would be really young), but at the same time that money could be spent elsewhere. We don't really have financial constraints to buy Stralman out though, so it would be more like allowing him to pursue a spot somewhere else.

16 team no trade probably means he isn't getting traded either.

 

[Chayos]

-2M for 4 years will hurt the Avs, but he's def not waiving

Why not waive. He gets 12 million that way instead of 8 and isn’t going to be picked anyways

 

[LTIR]

Koskinen might be another buyout candidate from Edmonton especially if a quality goalie or 2 shake loose

 

[Wingsfan 4 life]

Doubt Wings buyout anybody. Neilson's the closest to buyout material, but they'll likely just ride out his last year.

 

[Ciao]

The Leafs don't have even a single buyout candidate for 2021-22.

Pretty good contract management, I would say.

 

[57special]

Some are saying Parise, but I don't see it. Maybe after next year.

 

[mouser]

With higher escrow, lower revenues to share between players and owners, so more paid back to owners. Is it cheaper to keep paying them in real dollars than buying them out?
I don’t know if buyout money is subject to escrow.

Buyout payments are subject to escrow.

 

[McShogun99]

Depending on the Oilers off season plans they could probably keep Neal for another year and buy him out next off season. They will have a lot of cap space this off season so buying him out might not be necessary yet.

 

[Sticktape]

I can respect the ice time argument but chances are that the Sharks will get rid of Radim Simek this offseason. He is likely the exposed defenseman in the Seattle expansion draft. If he is not taken there, they will likely trade him for a late round draft pick afterwards. That move will open up ice time for the likes of Hatakka, Kniazev, Merkley, and Pasichnuk to compete for. I think they can hold off on buying Vlasic out due to the damaging nature of his buyout for now even though I agree he's not anywhere near worth his deal. He's at least been solid when relegated to the 3rd pairing so at least that's something instead of the vast nothing that is Jones. And considering they're going to likely buy out Jones, I don't think they're going to stomach two lengthy buyouts in one offseason. And really, I wouldn't even buyout Jones if I had unilateral control over what's going on. I'd simply send him to the AHL and eat the contract until it either expires or the team turns it around one year and look like they're trending upwards. I don't see that happening in the three seasons that Jones has left.

Is Hatakka really close to NHL ready?

 

[Pinkfloyd]

Is Hatakka really close to NHL ready?

Probably not but that group will get an opportunity in training camp.