Who to take 3rd overall

tavares

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I'm a little confuse right now ... i tough Gabriel Landeskog was safe to be the 3rd overall pick behind Ryan Nugent-Hopkins and Adam Larsson.

Do you still think Landeskog need to be the 3rd pick or can it be Huberdeau or Couturier or Strome ?


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Devils1029

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There's a solid top 5 prospects that you names and each one has the skils that might be more attractive to one team or another and it's possible that the top 3 teams all might have a different order of preference.

1. Rumors are that people high up in Edmonton have commented that they felt RNH had vision on the ice unseen since gretzky. That's saying alot and if true, how could they pass on that?

2. Colorado seems set at center so they're likely looking for a wing or dman. Larson is highly ranked but Col just added fromer #1 overall pick dman, Eric Johnson, and have some solid prospects in Elliot and Barrie. Trading a tough winger this year, many think they could opt for the intangibles of toughness, leadership and all around offensive ability of a guy like Landeskog. I think that Huberdeau coold work his way into that mix mainly because he has been unstoppable and is currently playing wing. Colorado went a bit off the charts and took Joey Hishon earlier than expected last year so it's quite possible that if they like Huberdeau, he could rise up as high as second overall but my bet is on Landeskog as he's a safe bet and I think would slot in very well with Duschene.

3. While Larsson might be the BPA here, Florida is solid on D with Gudbranson, Kulikov, Ellerby, and Robak but they are desperately in need of offense. While they drafted a sizeable center in Nick Bjustead last year, I'm not sure he makes the big club and they could be looking for someone who could step right in. I think it's conceivable that they opt for the possible exciting player in Huberdeau with game breaking ability or also could see the type of production from Couturier on a team where he is expected to carry the load offensively, as he likely would in Florida. I think they go with Couturier who also fits the mold of what Dale Tallon likes.

4. To be honest, as a NJ fan, I want Larsson as we've been lacking a guy like him but we do have some solid defensive prospects in Merrill, Urbom, Gelinas, and Burlon and young guys like Fayne and Taormina, who played well his year. We would probably be looking at the front lines and could use a center or possibly a RW bu if Larsson is available at #4, he's too good to pass up and let fall to the Islanders who are probably looking D. If Larsson goes earlier, than NJ will take the BPA out of Couturier, Landeskog, and Huberdeau, whichever are available.

5. With young players already in the NHL in Tavares, Okposo, Bailey, Grabner, and Moulson and some offensive/2 way dmen in DeHaan and Hamonic, I think the Islanders are going for a defenseman. Huberdeau or Couturier as well as Strome could be available but I think the Islanders go with Dougie Hamilton who is a big, tough, good skating d-man who brings exactly what the Islanders have been lacking from the back line. I just can't see them passing up on him.

Other thoughts...Ottawa, dropping to 6th. If they aren't able to move up to get Landeskog (especially if taken by Colorado), will go with Strome or Huberdeau as I've heard they weren;t crazy about SC. Atlanta will go offense taking whichever of the centers are left, likely Strome. Columbus is probably will go defense and as Hamilton is gone, will select either Ryan Murphy, Nathan Beaulieu or Duncan Siemans, but my bet is with Murphy. Boston will also look to D and Siemans the likely pick. Wrapping p the top 10, Minnesota is the site of the draft and will make a splash by going a little of the board by picking sJoel Armia, another Finn, to lay with Mikael Granlund, who is on the smallish side although they also could opt for the big American kid, Brandon Saad. Coloardo, having selected a forward with #2, uses StLouis' pick on the steady two way dman in Nathan Beaulieu. Carolina - Armia or Saad, Calgary - Mika Zibanejad or Mark McNeil. Dallas takes Mika if he's still around, otherwise, could go of teh boards for the big 6'7" D-man in Jamie Oleksiak as they need both center and Defense.
 

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I can't see the Avs passing on Larsson just because we have EJ and some prospects. Its always smarter to build your centers and your dmen. I think the Panthers will take either Couturier or Landeskog.
 
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SufferingCatFan

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The Panthers will likely take whomever is left out of RNH, Larson, and Landeskog, who are all safe, top prospects.

Huberdeau has big upside, but also more risk. Couturier has size, plays solid all-around, 2-way game, but seems to lack the wow factor in any aspect of his game plus the Panthers have solid, prospects at center.
 

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I take RNH,

I say Edmonton takes Larsson cause their need a top D, Colorado needs Wingers and thats where Landeskog kicks in and hes alot like Forsberg
 

Roof Daddy

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I think its safe to say RNH goes 1 and Larsson 2. IMO that gives FLA 2 options.

1. Take Lando. He is the BPA @ 3rd overall. The only question is whether or not he fills FLA's greatest need. Which leads to...

2. Trade with the Senators. Bryan Murray is supposedly crazy for Lando. The Sens are very weak at forward and the chance to groom a Swede LW (who is very good at everything) opposite an aging Alfie, while giving Spezza proper linemates to channel his talents will be too much for Murray not to answer Tallon's requests. IMO, the NSH 1st should be enough, and FLA gets the center they likely covet more anyway (one of Couturier/Huberdeau/Strome).
 

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IMO, the NSH 1st should be enough, and FLA gets the center they likely covet more anyway (one of Couturier/Huberdeau/Strome).

The only problem is if they covet 1 or even 2 of the 3 more then the other, there is a chance both won't be there at 6.
 

Dread Clawz

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The only problem is if they covet 1 or even 2 of the 3 more then the other, there is a chance both won't be there at 6.

That is the problem indeed. If the Sens were sitting at #5 it might be a lot more realistic. I still can't see the Panthers not taking Landeskog is he's available though. A late 1st is nice but is it really worth it? We have the #33 pick, we could get a late 1st by including a 3rd rounder.
 

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Edmonton will take RNH, I'm pretty sure.

Then it's a toss up between Landeskog and Larsson, and I think it's pretty set in stone - the top 3 that is.

Personally, I feel that Huberdeau has much more potential than Landeskog, but Landeskog's intangibles make him a Tallon type player, so I see him being picked by Florida.
 

hbajwa96

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If the Oilers choose RNH, then that'd mean they'll have..

Hall
MPS
Eberle
Omark
RNH

Wow
 

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I can't see the Avs passing on Larsson just because we have EJ and some prospects. Its always smarter to build your centers and your dmen. I think the Panthers will take either Couturier or Landeskog.

Erik Johnsson does not have the hockey sense to go with his physical tools...therefor I highly doubt he amount to much more than he is. Lack of IQ for dman is death.

Get the guy who has the tools AND head in Adam Larsson.

Adam Larsson could easily be their best defenseman if not franchise player.
 

nanzenkills

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I think if you're picking 3rd, you take whoever's left of Larsson, RNH, and Landeskog if you want the safe pick. If you're willing to take a risk and go for a home run, you take Huberdeau.

There's a solid top 5 prospects that you names and each one has the skils that might be more attractive to one team or another and it's possible that the top 3 teams all might have a different order of preference.

1. Rumors are that people high up in Edmonton have commented that they felt RNH had vision on the ice unseen since gretzky. That's saying alot and if true, how could they pass on that?

2. Colorado seems set at center so they're likely looking for a wing or dman. Larson is highly ranked but Col just added fromer #1 overall pick dman, Eric Johnson, and have some solid prospects in Elliot and Barrie. Trading a tough winger this year, many think they could opt for the intangibles of toughness, leadership and all around offensive ability of a guy like Landeskog. I think that Huberdeau coold work his way into that mix mainly because he has been unstoppable and is currently playing wing. Colorado went a bit off the charts and took Joey Hishon earlier than expected last year so it's quite possible that if they like Huberdeau, he could rise up as high as second overall but my bet is on Landeskog as he's a safe bet and I think would slot in very well with Duschene.

3. While Larsson might be the BPA here, Florida is solid on D with Gudbranson, Kulikov, Ellerby, and Robak but they are desperately in need of offense. While they drafted a sizeable center in Nick Bjustead last year, I'm not sure he makes the big club and they could be looking for someone who could step right in. I think it's conceivable that they opt for the possible exciting player in Huberdeau with game breaking ability or also could see the type of production from Couturier on a team where he is expected to carry the load offensively, as he likely would in Florida. I think they go with Couturier who also fits the mold of what Dale Tallon likes.

4. To be honest, as a NJ fan, I want Larsson as we've been lacking a guy like him but we do have some solid defensive prospects in Merrill, Urbom, Gelinas, and Burlon and young guys like Fayne and Taormina, who played well his year. We would probably be looking at the front lines and could use a center or possibly a RW bu if Larsson is available at #4, he's too good to pass up and let fall to the Islanders who are probably looking D. If Larsson goes earlier, than NJ will take the BPA out of Couturier, Landeskog, and Huberdeau, whichever are available.

5. With young players already in the NHL in Tavares, Okposo, Bailey, Grabner, and Moulson and some offensive/2 way dmen in DeHaan and Hamonic, I think the Islanders are going for a defenseman. Huberdeau or Couturier as well as Strome could be available but I think the Islanders go with Dougie Hamilton who is a big, tough, good skating d-man who brings exactly what the Islanders have been lacking from the back line. I just can't see them passing up on him.

Other thoughts...Ottawa, dropping to 6th. If they aren't able to move up to get Landeskog (especially if taken by Colorado), will go with Strome or Huberdeau as I've heard they weren;t crazy about SC. Atlanta will go offense taking whichever of the centers are left, likely Strome. Columbus is probably will go defense and as Hamilton is gone, will select either Ryan Murphy, Nathan Beaulieu or Duncan Siemans, but my bet is with Murphy. Boston will also look to D and Siemans the likely pick. Wrapping p the top 10, Minnesota is the site of the draft and will make a splash by going a little of the board by picking sJoel Armia, another Finn, to lay with Mikael Granlund, who is on the smallish side although they also could opt for the big American kid, Brandon Saad. Coloardo, having selected a forward with #2, uses StLouis' pick on the steady two way dman in Nathan Beaulieu. Carolina - Armia or Saad, Calgary - Mika Zibanejad or Mark McNeil. Dallas takes Mika if he's still around, otherwise, could go of teh boards for the big 6'7" D-man in Jamie Oleksiak as they need both center and Defense.

Colorado won't draft according to positional need in the first round. They proved that last year by taking Hishon even though center was their position of least need to draft for. They'll take who they think is BPA, though it may not be the consensus BPA, as Hishon proved last year.
 

Wheatking

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If the Oilers choose RNH, then that'd mean they'll have..

Hall
MPS
Eberle
Omark
RNH

Wow
It's funny how Gagner is always the forgotten man but Omark gets listed in these conversations. I'm not calling you out. It really is just kind of funny.

RNH/Larsson- 18
Hall- 19
Paajarvi- 19
Eberle- 20
Hartikainen- 20
Gagner- 21
-
Petry- 22
Peckham- 23
Cogliano- 23
Omark- 24
Brule- 24

Gagner gets talked about like he's in the same category as Cogliano and Brule while Omark is in the conversation with Hall and Eberle. It should be the other way around.
 

Macch

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It's funny how Gagner is always the forgotten man but Omark gets listed in these conversations. I'm not calling you out. It really is just kind of funny.

RNH/Larsson- 18
Hall- 19
Paajarvi- 19
Eberle- 20
Hartikainen- 20
Gagner- 21
-
Petry- 22
Peckham- 23
Cogliano- 23
Omark- 24
Brule- 24

Gagner gets talked about like he's in the same category as Cogliano and Brule while Omark is in the conversation with Hall and Eberle. It should be the other way around.


Yeah but have you seen Omark's youtube videos!!


:sarcasm:
 

KlattNazty

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I think its safe to say RNH goes 1 and Larsson 2. IMO that gives FLA 2 options.

1. Take Lando. He is the BPA @ 3rd overall. The only question is whether or not he fills FLA's greatest need. Which leads to...

2. Trade with the Senators. Bryan Murray is supposedly crazy for Lando. The Sens are very weak at forward and the chance to groom a Swede LW (who is very good at everything) opposite an aging Alfie, while giving Spezza proper linemates to channel his talents will be too much for Murray not to answer Tallon's requests. IMO, the NSH 1st should be enough, and FLA gets the center they likely covet more anyway (one of Couturier/Huberdeau/Strome).

Honestly, Tallon knows how to draft. He got lucky with Kulikov too, now gudbranson on that back end, and Bjugstad looking quite good in the NCAA, and Howden who is unbelievably versatile and fast with skill.

They've got 2 studs on the backend, some serious talent coming up front. If they take Couturier or even Huberdeau or strome, I wouldnt want to have to match up those lines in the future as they are going to be packed with skill.
 

AwesomePanthers

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Honestly, Tallon knows how to draft. He got lucky with Kulikov too, now gudbranson on that back end, and Bjugstad looking quite good in the NCAA, and Howden who is unbelievably versatile and fast with skill.

They've got 2 studs on the backend, some serious talent coming up front. If they take Couturier or even Huberdeau or strome, I wouldnt want to have to match up those lines in the future as they are going to be packed with skill.

Kulikov wasn't drafted by Tallon, that was Randy Saxton. But I have full confidence in Tallon and our scouts. We'll get a stud wether they trade down, up or keep the pick.
 

SouthFLFan79

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I wouldnt mind Larsson for Florida

Imagine a backline of

Kulikov, Guds
Larsson, Ellerby

Gotta be a pretty sick 4 in the defensive end. We have to take the best player available plain and simple. If you arent sure which you truly want then move back a few spots to pick up more picks. But, in our position it is getting elite talent right now into the system that is most important.
 

McOvechking

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Landeskog is more of a "franchise" player than Huberdeau, Couturier, or Strome. Florida is looking for a franchise player to help them gain an identity. If he's available, he will be taken 3rd overall.
 

SwedishFire

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Why is Ryan Murphy always forgotten?

He could turn out to be the big blast of this draft?

Why isn´t he up there with the topfive?

Absolutly great skater and passer, and a booming shot.

Why no fuzz about Murphy?
 

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