Who Should Get in the 2021 Baseball Hall of Fame?

[Say Hey Kid]

Who Should Get in the 2021 Baseball Hall of Fame? 10 votes are allowed. You can change your vote.

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[Terry Yake]

bonds, clemens, ramirez, kent, rolen, sosa

 

[darko]

Clemens, Bonds, Manny, Rolen and Wagner.

Omar and Sosa have no business in HOF.

 

[Big Poppa Puck]

Furcal, Lee and Giambi all failed to get 5% this year and are off the ballot for next year.

Bonds
Clemens
Schilling
Rolen
Manny

 

[missingmika]

Clemens, Bonds, Manny, Rolen and Wagner.

Omar and Sosa have no business in HOF.

Omar does. To copy and paste from last year:

Stark, a voter, makes a great case for Omar:

Omar Vizquel

Once upon a time, I wrote a book on the most overrated and underrated players in baseball history ("The Stark Truth," which I'm required to remind you is still available where books are sold online). In that book, I elevated Vizquel onto my most-underrated-shortstops medal stand and made the case he was a Hall of Famer. I know many won't agree. But I'm still there.

Look, I know the range data shows he wasn't really a modern Ozzie Smith. But this just in: Nobody was. Still, those 11 Gold Gloves -- the third most by any infielder in history -- tell us exactly what the rest of baseball thought of Vizquel in his prime. Plus, I think I can make a case he was the most sure-handed shortstop ever.

I can throw lots of numbers at you, but my favorite is this: Incredibly, he had three seasons in which he played at least 140 games and made five errors or fewer. That's as many seasons like that as all the other shortstops since 1900 combined.

And one more thing. Despite Vizquel's offensive limitations, he still finished with 2,877 hits. And here's your complete list of players with as many hits and Gold Gloves as Vizquel: Willie Mays, Roberto Clemente and that's it. So is there a Hall of Fame argument for this man? Heck yeah, there is.

Casting my 2018 Hall of Fame ballot ... today

Best defensive shortstop not named Ozzie Smith ever.

 

[Tecumseh]

Vizquel played for 25 years, 2,877 hits isn’t that impressive. He has similar offensive numbers as Julio Franco who’s nowhere close to the Hall of Fame. Defense alone shouldn’t get you in the Hall unless you’re Ozzie or Brooks Robinson. That being said, both were better with the bat than Vizquel. Ozzie definitely was.

 

[Emperoreddy]

Schilling will get in as long as he doesn’t have some major rant between now and then.

It’s entirely possible he goes in alone...oh lord he might have the stage entirely to himself.

 

[82Ninety42011]

Schilling should and will and Omar will eventually as well. The juice box gang can say goodbye for good as far as I'm concerned.

 

[tony d]

I think Schilling is the lone inductee in 2021. If I had a 10 name ballot though I'd vote for Schilling, Bonds, Clemens, Ramirez, Kent, Wagner, Helton, Sheffield, Pettite and Sosa.

 

[Voight]

If Vizquel gets in, Cooperstown has finally lowered its standards to that of the Hockey hall of Fame.

 

[Sanchise90]

For me, it's Bonds, Clemens, Schilling, Kent and you can sway me on Rolen one way or another.

 

[bleedblue1223]

Is there an offensive equivalent to Omar that's in the Hall?

I just hope Rolen keeps trending upwards. It's weird that 3B is so under-represented.

 

[Sanchise90]

If Vizquel gets in, Cooperstown has finally lowered its standards to that of the Hockey hall of Fame.

Thank you. The man made 3 ASG in 24 years. That means for less than over 80 percent of his career, he wasn't even considered an All-Star level shortstop in whatever league he played in. How that guy got more votes than Jeff Kent and Scott Rolen is mind-boggling...

 

[Sanchise90]

Is there an offensive equivalent to Omar that's in the Hall?

Does Harold Baines count?

 

[bleedblue1223]

Does Harold Baines count?

Yeah, forgot about him for some reason. He was a bizarre entry after never getting more than 6.1%.

 

[Voight]

Yeah, forgot about him for some reason. He was a bizarre entry after never getting more than 6.1%.

Even Cooperstown has its Dave Andreychuks I suppose

 

[Filthy Dangles]

Is there an offensive equivalent to Omar that's in the Hall?

I just hope Rolen keeps trending upwards. It's weird that 3B is so under-represented.

Ozzie Smith was a comparable, albeit better offensive player. Career 87 OPS+ vs 82 Career OPS+ for Vizquel.

Does Harold Baines count?

Career 121 OPS+ and 83 OPS+ aren't that comparable.

 

[bleedblue1223]

Ozzie Smith was a comparable, albeit better offensive player. Career 87 OPS+ vs 82 Career OPS+ for Vizquel.

To me Vizquel is just a Hall of Very Good version of Ozzie. Ozzie was better both with the bat and glove by a decent margin.

 

[Say Hey Kid]

Ozzie has a higher WAR than Reggie Jackson.

 

[SSF]

Yea, I am laughing all the comps that few days between Ozzie and Omar. FFS it isnt even close

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Is there an offensive equivalent to Omar that's in the Hall?.

Luis Aparicio
2,599 games (18 yr career)
2,677 hits
394 doubles
92 triples
83 HR's
791 RBI's
506 SB
.262 BA
.311 OBP
.343 SLG
55.8 WAR
31.8 Def WAR (6th alltime)

1956 AL Rookie of the Year
13x All-Star
9 Gold Gloves

Omar Vizquel
2,968 games (24 yr career)
2,877 hits
456 doubles
77 triples
80 HR's
951 RBI's
404 SB
.272 BA
.336 OBP
.352 SLG
45.6 WAR
29.5 Def WAR (9th alltime)

3x All-Star
11 Gold Gloves

 

[Sanchise90]

Luis Aparicio
2,599 games (18 yr career)
2,677 hits
394 doubles
92 triples
83 HR's
791 RBI's
506 SB
.262 BA
.311 OBP
.343 SLG
55.8 WAR
31.8 Def WAR (6th alltime)

1956 AL Rookie of the Year
13x All-Star
9 Gold Gloves

Omar Vizquel
2,968 games (24 yr career)
2,877 hits
456 doubles
77 triples
80 HR's
951 RBI's
404 SB
.272 BA
.336 OBP
.352 SLG
45.6 WAR
29.5 Def WAR (9th alltime)

3x All-Star
11 Gold Gloves

There's a pretty big gap between 13 time all star in 18 years and 3 time all star in 24 years. Just saying...

 

[Terry Yake]

If Vizquel gets in, Cooperstown has finally lowered its standards to that of the Hockey hall of Fame.

that already happened when jack morris and harold baines got in

 

[TheTotalPackage]

Just get Clemens and Bonds in there already. Steroids or not, they were great ball players regardless.

 

[SSF]

I cant wait until the continued phase-out of the older generation of writers is finished; unfortunately it is probably going to take another 5-7 years. Cranky hypocrites determining now to keep out Bonds and Clemens when during their careers they wrote nary a negative word on them aside from both being jerks.
Vizquel is gonna get in at some point, he is past the the 50 percent mark, there is only one player who has passed 50 percent and not gotten in (Gil Hodges, thanks Jay Jaffe).