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The 09-10 caps were also maybe the most run and gun team since the lockout with ov playing with both backstrom and semin
He played with Backstrom and Knuble, Semin was on the second line.
The 09-10 caps were also maybe the most run and gun team since the lockout with ov playing with both backstrom and semin
It’s a good idea though. Should do 9 more so we can get the top 10Suppose I could've just made this poll Ovechkin vs. Crosby.
Impressive, but if you want to expand Sakic's peak, you can get the following numbers for him from 1998-2001 (in consecutive games):
295 points in 215 games (1.37 points per game), an 82 game pace of 113 points
123 goals (0.42 goals per game), an 82 game pace of 47 goals
+98
This span includes the '99 season, which is the third lowest scoring season (2004 is the lowest scoring) since 1956.
If you comb through that 215 game stretch and isolate the best stretch of 115 games, you may get numbers similar to Forsberg's during that 115 game stretch you highlighted.
However, while Sakic had a strong 2001 playoffs, his 2000 playoffs wasn't great (just two goals and nine points in 17 games; he was a PPG player in the 1999 playoffs).
Ovechkin AINEC, 2006-2010 with the best peak year (2008).
To put this into perspective, in the 2007-2008 season, Ovechkin finished with 65G+47A = 112 points. The next closest player on his team had 69 points.
Too many options here - it's a 3 horse race to me; Crosby, Ovi or Malkin. McDavid might get there, but I don't think we can say that his one season (and 6 games) of dominance is enough to put him with the other three yet.
1 season? He has as many Art Ross trophies as Crosby and Malkin already.
Sure there is. Ovi's goal socring trumped Crosby's in their peak, but Sid was a far more complete player while being just as dynamic in the offensive zone in every way but shooting.There is no case for Crosby over Ovechkin in this poll.
Sure there is. Ovi's goal socring trumped Crosby's in their peak, but Sid was a far more complete player while being just as dynamic in the offensive zone in every way but shooting.
To put this into perspective, in the 2007-2008 season, Ovechkin finished with 65G+47A = 112 points. The next closest player on his team had 69 points.
There is no case for Crosby over Ovechkin in this poll.
Depends on the question. Ovechkin's full seasons are certainly more impressive than Crosby's, and in that sense absolutely.
But if we're asking who was "better" at his best - Crosby absolutely has a case. It's a flip of coin kind of situation - but to claim that Ov was a level above Crosby is silly. Now if you're picking OV hands down based on length of peak, or full seasons vs half seasons - that's fine. But if OP isn't putting that limitation, i think they both merit consideration.
As does Malkin.
I guess that depends on when you consider his peak, but Crosby was a complete player at a very young age. To suggest otherwise is false. Ovechkin made more highlight reels, sure. But both players dominated in the offensive zone. How are you evaluating who "tilted the ice" more exactly?Crosby wasn't a complete player back then. And it doesn't matter anyway because OV tilted the ice more than Crosby so who cares about how good he was in his own zone.
that was Malkin's worst year statisticallyAfter 38 games in 2010/11, Crosby had 32 goals, and 65 points, Malkin was next with 32 points.
Ah yes. 2008. The season Crosby was the leagues leading scorer 50% through the season before getting injured.There is no case for Crosby over Ovechkin in this poll.
So how long do you consider "peak" to mean then? McDavid from three seasons ago wasn't at Crosby or Malkin's peak level. Two years ago he hit another level and would have been in the discussion. Last season after Christmas he certainly would be but his first quarter season was far below that standard because he had the flu for so long. So really we're talking about a season, a season and a half (with a half in the middle of those two which don't reach that level). Look, I'm an Oilers fan but you can't homer yourself so much in these discussions. McDavid is on his way to being ahead of these guys if he gets some team success. But he isn't there yet.
2007-08Ah yes. 2008. The season Crosby was the leagues leading scorer 50% through the season before getting injured.
Let me know when Ovechkin wins an art ross in a season where Crosby wasent injured like that. Also let me know when he wins an art ross by 17 points.
that was Malkin's worst year statistically
Crosby has no argument because anyone can get hot for ~30 games a season. Crosby himself is a perfect example in 16/17 when after the first 30 games he was on pace for 60+ goals and people (including you I remember) thought he would get it, but he ended up barely hitting 40. Whoever picks a 40 game Crosby and his fantasy 82 game pace over the actual 82 game production OV and/or Malkin put up is just delusional.