Speculation: Who is really running Hockey Ops to close out the season?

[Stoneman89]

Hmmm. Lets see. Who’s in charge now? Well, bringing in a complete garbage overpaid Manning screams Howson (Nikitin v2.0). Signing Koskinen for waaay too much, waaay too soon screams KLowe and MacT (Clarkson, Nylander etc). All we need to do to muddle the issue now is to bring in an over-rated former OilKing and we could add Green to the mix. Gosh! So many happy potential endings in this little Choose Your Own Adventure book.

Pretty sure we’ve already drafted/traded for way over our quota for ex Oil Kings/Edmonton guys. Griffin Reinhardt being the most notorious one of course. But not to worry. Green said at the time of that trade that he remembered Griff being a stud in junior.

 

[guymez]

This is illuminating....

Pocklington Era 1992 - 98
Katz Era 2008 - 2016

Source article by David Staples is from 2016.....

Cult of Hockey: Why Katz era so bad? "Katz treated the Oilers like a shiny new toy."

 

[guymez]

Little did we know on this day that it would mark the beginning of the worst ownership (from a team success perspective) in Edmonton Sports history....and the futility continues.

Quite a legacy for Daryl Katz.

 

[guymez]

Katz ERA vs EIG...another fail for Katz.
There is absolutely no way to frame the Katz ownership as anything but a failure of historical proportions.....

Source article is from David Staples...August 2016

The Daryl Katz Oilers have been far worse than the EIG Oilers. Why?

 

[MinisterOfSinister]

We are right back to this it looks like....nothing has changed in 5 years.

Beleaguered Oilers fans renew call for Kevin Lowe’s job

Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.

 

[torniojaws]

Obviously it's Mac T. The man who didn't wear a helmet in his NHL career!

That combined with all the trades the Oilers have done makes perfect sense!

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

If Katz doesn’t fundamentally change the management core this off season then he never will. This season has been an unmitigated disaster despite the illusory playoff hunt. We are only in a playoff hunt because 6 other teams suck as bad as the Oilers.

 

[BlackDogg]

Chia was likely secretly put in the position by the nhl in order to see if he could get his stupid bosses fired but it didn't work. Never will.

 

[hallhopkinseberle]

Katz ERA vs EIG...another fail for Katz.
There is absolutely no way to frame the Katz ownership as anything but a failure of historical proportions.....

Source article is from David Staples...August 2016

The Daryl Katz Oilers have been far worse than the EIG Oilers. Why?

Poor drafting in the EIG era lead to this. Poor drafting contuined and we might be finally getting out of this mess since our drafting as been better as of late.

 

[guymez]

Poor drafting in the EIG era lead to this. Poor drafting contuined and we might be finally getting out of this mess since our drafting as been better as of late.

I would have to go back and look at the drafting from the EIG era.

In any event I know for sure that the Katz era had a number of opportunities since 2008 to change the fabric of this team through the draft and otherwise. They squandered any decent players they did have (ie Jeff Petry) and messed up the draft year after year after year.

One thing we know for sure....Katz and his band of cronies have failed miserably.

 

[coastalview]

i heard it was randy from red deer
running the team from the basement apartment of his parents' home

 

[oobga]

This is illuminating....

Pocklington Era 1992 - 98
Katz Era 2008 - 2016

Source article by David Staples is from 2016.....

Cult of Hockey: Why Katz era so bad? "Katz treated the Oilers like a shiny new toy."

If you showed this to Nicholson, what would he conclude? Probably that one period had good character and the other did not.

 

[T-Funk]

 

[guymez]

If you showed this to Nicholson, what would he conclude? Probably that one period had good character and the other did not.

I hear you.
Katz bought the team in 2008...almost 11 years ago. I guess it takes time to acquire character.
If you trade away enough talent then eventually you get enough character to be successful.
Its a good plan... Nicholson audited for years and thats his conclusion.
We just need to be patient.

 

[bucktown]

Someday there will be a "insider tells all" book about this debacle of ours....and I can't wait to read it.

I wonder who the insider will be?

 

[guymez]

Someday there will be a "insider tells all" book about this debacle of ours....and I can't wait to read it.

I wonder who the insider will be?

I dont know but it will be a very sad read.

 

[MinisterOfSinister]

With this org?
Itll be written by Stauffer, forward by the OBC.

 

[FunkyChicken]

If you showed this to Nicholson, what would he conclude? Probably that one period had good character and the other did not.

Solution: Bring in the players from the Pocklington era to manage and bring character to the current players.
End audit.

 

[rboomercat90]

Poor drafting in the EIG era lead to this. Poor drafting contuined and we might be finally getting out of this mess since our drafting as been better as of late.

EIG was what they were but how long does that excuse stay relevant? Katz bought this team 11 years ago. Even if EIG was good at drafting and development, how many of those players would still be in the league today? I don’t see the point anymore of bringing those guys up. They’ve got nothing to do with what the issues of this team are today.

 

[rboomercat90]

Someday there will be a "insider tells all" book about this debacle of ours....and I can't wait to read it.

I wonder who the insider will be?

Who ever the first guy to be fired is. That’s why none of them are getting fired.

 

[BlackDogg]

Unrelated question: what round was the draft pick that was give up for Tmac?

 

[rboomercat90]

Unrelated question: what round was the draft pick that was give up for Tmac?

I think it was a second for both of them.

 

[guymez]

I think it was a second for both of them.

It was for sure.
This team sure could have used a couple of extra 2nd round draft picks.

 

[guymez]

How long before Hitch is gone?

 

[Little Fury]

How long before Hitch is gone?

End of the season.