Who is a bigger detriment to the future success of the Flyers?

[CutOnDime97]

While the obvious answer seems like AV to me, I'm not sure. When AV is inevitably axed who comes next? I haven't seen any moves from Fletcher that make me confident he will hire a competent replacement or improve the roster in any meaningful way.

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[FLYERSFAN18]

Fletcher. He is the one who hired AV and the rest of the dopes on the coaching staff. He is also the one who signed, Hayes, Laughton, Hagg, Braun, Gus, Thompson, etc. He has to go if we want to be successful

 

[Starat327]

Fire Fletcher, new GM brings in his own coach. Two birds, one stone.

 

[Beef Invictus]

This is like asking if you'd prefer pneumonic Black Death or Zaire Ebola.

 

[deadhead]

Check in next season. I don't come to any conclusions over the clusterf--k that has been this season, on so many levels.
I mean we're out of the playoffs and half the Phantom's schedule seems to have imploded. So much for player development.

Fletcher will make his moves this summer, AV will get one more shot, and by next spring we'll know if any of it worked.

 

[wankstifier]

This is still Hextall’s fault

 

[kudymen]

None of us knows the answer. Hanson does

 

[CutOnDime97]

None of us knows the answer. Hanson does

I haven't gone through that thread and I see it's over 30 pages now. May just have to live with never understanding the references.

 

[Starat327]

I haven't gone through that thread and I see it's over 30 pages now. May just have to live with never understanding the references.

Its worth the read, trust me.

 

[ponder719]

Dave Scott.

 

[no1b4me]

Should have had a players option. Changing out coaches and/or gm's every 2 or 3 years without some core player changes you're going to have the same result.

 

[CutOnDime97]

Should have had a players option. Changing out coaches and/or gm's every 2 or 3 years without some core player changes you're going to have the same result.

GM can change the players.

 

[Shrike]

Dave Scott
Chuck Fletcher
AV
Michel therrion
Mike Yeo
Jake voracek
Opinion that provy is a number 1 D
Softness of roster

in that order

 

[dragonoffrost]

Adenoids....

 

[swami24]

G.. .........

 

[David St Hubbins]

This is like asking if you'd prefer pneumonic Black Death or Zaire Ebola.

 

[Rich Nixon]

Eric Lindros. Would you believe the coward wanted to go to a hospital because he had a measly collapsed lung? STRIP THE C OFF HIS CHEST.

 

[dats81]

AV had a positive impact on the team when he came here but this season and in particular his treatment of the younger players has raised concerns. I dislike his choice of assistant coaches more than anything else about his way of doing things.

As far as Fletcher is regarded, I'm leaning towards giving him next offseason to really model the roster according to his vision before I come up with a final assesment. Now that he knows every player and prospect and there is a glaring need for change and some former untouchable assets potentially being added to his list of movable parts, he should have way more options.

... for now their fate is linked to one another. They get their shit together next season, or ownership will ask for both of their heads.

 

[flyersnorth]

Just discovered the other day that this woman -

is Rebecca from Ted Lasso -

 

[flyersnorth]

AV had a positive impact on the team when he came here but this season and in particular his treatment of the younger players has raised concerns. I dislike his choice of assistant coaches more than anything else about his way of doing things.

As far as Fletcher is regarded, I'm leaning towards giving him next offseason to really model the roster according to his vision before I come up with a final assesment. Now that he knows every player and prospect and there is a glaring need for change and some former untouchable assets potentially being added to his list of movable parts, he should have way more options.

... for now their fate is linked to one another. They get their shit together next season, or ownership will ask for both of their heads.

This is where I'm at.

I initially thought the hires were fine, especially AV who has had a track record of success.

Last year, the team seemed to make progress and unlock some of their potential.

This year, they look like a bottom third NHL team without any identity. Unwatchable on most nights.

So, this off-season is the most important one for the Flyers in a long time - and it's up to Fletch to make it count.

If the team is in the same place next year, they both need to go.

 

[TB87]

This is a Sophie’s Choice poll. I blame the dentists.

 

[EdmFlyersfan]

Question needs to be clarified:

Detriment to short term success = AV
Detriment to long term success = Fletch

 

[CutOnDime97]

Question needs to be clarified:

Detriment to short term success = AV
Detriment to long term success = Fletch

Yeah pretty much this. "Both" is the real answer I guess.

 

[Jack Straw]

The correct answer to the question "who's to blame?" is always, always, Donovan McNabb.

 

[ajgoal]

The correct answer to the question "who's to blame?" is always, always, Donovan McNabb.

But Donovan hated the city and its fans because of A****o C*****i. So blame him.