Player Discussion Who gets moved before July 1st?

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Wabit

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I'm not looking for player value or potential trades here, just who do people think actually will (not should) end up being moved (trade, buyout, etc.) before the start of UFA signings.

I'm not including NMCs or most low salary players/prospects that probably wouldn't be worth at least a 2nd rounder on their own.

Let me know if I should add anyone.
 

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I think it's Nino or Brodin. Depends on the types of players coming back though. Hopefully Ennis is gone.
 

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Trading a Dman, with Suter's health in question, makes no sense. I could make an argument for trading Spurgeon( though not a strong one)if the Wild were looking to reload, but it seems like the Wild want to compete right away.

People seem to be mad at Brodin for being a defensive specialist, and not a pojnt scoring machine. Just how many points do you want the Wild back end to score next year? What were they, top 2 in the NHL as is? At what point does your defense suffer as you chase after points from the back end?

I voted Ennis. With retention it's slightly possible that he might find a spot on a team somewhere....maybe on Uberdachen's ball hockey team.
 
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Trading a Dman, with Suter's health in question, makes no sense. I could make an argument for trading Spurgeon( though not a strong one)if the Wild were looking to reload, but it seems like the Wild want to compete right away.
Suter and Fenton may have a better handle on how questionable Suter's health actually is. If the doctors think he's on track to recover fully I don't think we should let it stop us from making a move that otherwise makes sense.

No idea what sort of prognosis the doctors can offer at this point, though.
 
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I voted Dumba, Kaprizov, 1st. If there's a thread for who we get in return, I'll vote for whichever player reminds me the most of Roger Murtaugh.
 
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Only argument I can make for trading Dumba is that he might get us a #1c if he is packaged. The other thing he might get is a top 6 forward and a fairly high draft pick, say form 9-14, maybe? Could be that one of the high scoring Dmen, Hughes, Boqvist, or Bouchard, are still around at that point. Doesn't really fit in with the whole idea of a tweak to get us in contention immediately. Almost all Dmen need years to develop and be effective in the NHL. The guys who step in and are continuously good right away are few and far between.
 

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Suter and Fenton may have a better handle on how questionable Suter's health actually is. If the doctors think he's on track to recover fully I don't think we should let it stop us from making a move that otherwise makes sense.

No idea what sort of prognosis the doctors can offer at this point, though.
It is not like the Wild have a host of Dmen prospects pushing for top-4 duty. Seeler looked good, but it was a short stint and he is a limited player regardless.

If the Wild moved a Dman, they would almost certainly have to do a secondary move to get one back.
 

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It is not like the Wild have a host of Dmen prospects pushing for top-4 duty. Seeler looked good, but it was a short stint and he is a limited player regardless.

If the Wild moved a Dman, they would almost certainly have to do a secondary move to get one back.
They would, but I don't think trading for or signing a replacement middle-pairing LD would be all that difficult. The Brodin trade would have to be good enough to justify going to the trouble, but I think there'd be room to work.
 
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It is not like the Wild have a host of Dmen prospects pushing for top-4 duty. Seeler looked good, but it was a short stint and he is a limited player regardless.

If the Wild moved a Dman, they would almost certainly have to do a secondary move to get one back.
Seems overly complicated to do that doesn't it? I mean, the Wild could probably do a Dumba for Klefbom+10oa deal...the 10oa is nice, but anything but a sure thing, and unlikeLy to help for a couple of years at the earliest. Seems like a lot of work for little gain, and possibly for a big loss.
 

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Suter and Fenton may have a better handle on how questionable Suter's health actually is. If the doctors think he's on track to recover fully I don't think we should let it stop us from making a move that otherwise makes sense.

No idea what sort of prognosis the doctors can offer at this point, though.

We'll know more in a week or two when he begins putting weight on it.

My guess is that Fenton likes this team ok as presently constructed. It's a lot like Nashville, except the top forwards are older. He can watch tape all he wants, but I don't think that he can get a good sense for what the teams' needs are until he's put real hours in with the human beings. But they had only two players score more than 60 points the last two seasons but went to the Finals (won a pennant) and then the President's Trophy.

I think the team has a good top-four, as the Preds did. It needs a top line identity (Granlund-Staal-Niedderreiter) // (Forsberg/Johansen/Arvidsson) but the Wild has strength down the middle as that team did (Johansen/Fisher/Ribeiro/Jarnkrok/Fiddler) and a decent top two lines (they had Neal/Ribeiro/Smith/Wilson, Wild have some combination of Zucker/Parise/Koivu/Coyle).

One wild card possiblility: Fenton knows a couple players from the team already. What if Dubnyk is the guy he doesn't like or trust? Interesting trades to be made with the Islanders, Carolina, Washington (I would bet on any goalie coming to the Wild being a decent replacement, including Grubauer).
 

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We'll know more in a week or two when he begins putting weight on it.

My guess is that Fenton likes this team ok as presently constructed. It's a lot like Nashville, except the top forwards are older. He can watch tape all he wants, but I don't think that he can get a good sense for what the teams' needs are until he's put real hours in with the human beings. But they had only two players score more than 60 points the last two seasons but went to the Finals (won a pennant) and then the President's Trophy.

I think the team has a good top-four, as the Preds did. It needs a top line identity (Granlund-Staal-Niedderreiter) // (Forsberg/Johansen/Arvidsson) but the Wild has strength down the middle as that team did (Johansen/Fisher/Ribeiro/Jarnkrok/Fiddler) and a decent top two lines (they had Neal/Ribeiro/Smith/Wilson, Wild have some combination of Zucker/Parise/Koivu/Coyle).

One wild card possiblility: Fenton knows a couple players from the team already. What if Dubnyk is the guy he doesn't like or trust? Interesting trades to be made with the Islanders, Carolina, Washington (I would bet on any goalie coming to the Wild being a decent replacement, including Grubauer).
After all the rigamarole about good not being good enough and letting Fletcher go so that we could bring in someone that isn't as "attached" to some of the players, I'm going to be really confused if the biggest move Fenton makes out of the gate here is a goalie swap.
 

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What if Dubnyk is the guy he doesn't like or trust? Interesting trades to be made with the Islanders, Carolina, Washington (I would bet on any goalie coming to the Wild being a decent replacement, including Grubauer).
I've been wondering about this. I don't think it will happen, but there's a real possibility that Fenton could decide he doesn't trust Dubnyk and gets rid of him. That feels more like a move that would be made after year one, not before, but I guess you never know. Perhaps a scenario where Bruce doesn't trust him either.
 

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Coyle is coming off of two surgeries and Nino is coming off of multiple injuries. Does that mean that we can't trade any forwards either?

Klefbom and #10 is about half of the value of Dumba.

I for one hope that Fenton is looking to move Dubnyk
 

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After all the rigamarole about good not being good enough and letting Fletcher go so that we could bring in someone that isn't as "attached" to some of the players, I'm going to be really confused if the biggest move Fenton makes out of the gate here is a goalie swap.

That's what new eyes are all about. I personally like Dubnyk fine - good contract, solid goalie. He was awful with the Preds though, and certainly hasn't stolen a playoff series for this squad. So what if trading him to a goalie-needy team could bring in a 1st or 2nd round pick and a reasonable replacement? Just spitballin' but those are exactly the moves you make in this league.

Plus, an injured Suter + Scott Darling + regression from Staal, etc. = lottery pick? This would be something closer to the Jets method of adding superior talent in a short time-frame.
 

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That's what new eyes are all about. I personally like Dubnyk fine - good contract, solid goalie. He was awful with the Preds though, and certainly hasn't stolen a playoff series for this squad. So what if trading him to a goalie-needy team could bring in a 1st or 2nd round pick and a reasonable replacement? Just spitballin' but those are exactly the moves you make in this league.

Plus, an injured Suter + Scott Darling + regression from Staal, etc. = lottery pick? This would be something closer to the Jets method of adding superior talent in a short time-frame.
I could see trading Dubnyk, though I'm not sure who we'd be replacing him with. Assuming his NTC isn't a huge hurdle I'm sure a team like the Islanders would be happy to add him.

I just think it'd be weird if, after discussions with Leipold and Boudreau and being generally familiar with the team from being in the same division, the top priority in Fenton's mind was a goalie change.
 

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Besides an Ennis buyout, I think the most likely scenario is that Nino or Zucker is traded. I lean towards Nino being the one who is traded because Zucker brings speed that our team definitely lacks. Coyle will stay due to our lack of right-handed forwards.

If Fenton wants a significant shakeup, I could see him trading one of our D for a forward, coupled with trading one of our forwards for D. I suppose a D for D and a forward for a forward swap could also happen.
 

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I've been wondering about this. I don't think it will happen, but there's a real possibility that Fenton could decide he doesn't trust Dubnyk and gets rid of him. That feels more like a move that would be made after year one, not before, but I guess you never know. Perhaps a scenario where Bruce doesn't trust him either.
Dubnyk for Rinne? I think Rinne's reputation took a hit from his playoff performance, and he might need a change of scenery. Don't know how I feel about it. Rinne used to be, IMO , one of the top 3 goalies in the league. Don't know what he is now.
 

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A goalie upgrade could be difficult taking the salary cap into account, unless other players move as well. Just another piece to the puzzle.
 
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